MD11 Hong Kong Domicile
#31
Ok then....
....why are we crashing airplanes then? We have one of the worst safety records in recent years and I'm curious to know why this is?
Looking all the way back to the 747 crash (Tigers/Fedex) we seem to have gotten away with band-aid fixes until our most recent loss of lives accident.
It's time to figure this out.
Looking all the way back to the 747 crash (Tigers/Fedex) we seem to have gotten away with band-aid fixes until our most recent loss of lives accident.
It's time to figure this out.
#32
So what do you do when you have no choice but being on reserve and the only thing you get are RFO trips? This is a huge problem up in ANC.
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#35
sin
Allow me answer your question with another question....
(I don't know the answer to my question either)
What is our overall accident/incident RATE compared to, say, frequency of takeoffs/landings?
Is it within the statistical average rates for all MAJOR airlines or all CARGO airlines that operate worldwide? or is it so far outta whack (statistically) that it is a HUGE/glaring problem that needs to be somehow "fixed" yesterday?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the MD11 isn't the only airplane that we've "crashed" (or hull loss or major damage) here at FedEx, is it? (727, MD10, Airbus?)
And...FedEx isn't the only airline that has "crashed" MD11's either, are we? even recently (Shanghai on takeoff)
so.....I don't know/have the stats, but maybe all our MD11 "problems" that this first-time-poster/highly experienced/has-it-all-figured-out "jetkid" is blaming on our FedEx MD11 crews' "juniority" and "lack of experience on the jet" aren't even significant (statistically)
(with all due respect to FX80 crew and their families - of course that single event is/was significant to them)
....why are we crashing airplanes then? We have one of the worst safety records in recent years and I'm curious to know why this is?
Looking all the way back to the 747 crash (Tigers/Fedex) we seem to have gotten away with band-aid fixes until our most recent loss of lives accident.
It's time to figure this out.
Looking all the way back to the 747 crash (Tigers/Fedex) we seem to have gotten away with band-aid fixes until our most recent loss of lives accident.
It's time to figure this out.
(I don't know the answer to my question either)
What is our overall accident/incident RATE compared to, say, frequency of takeoffs/landings?
Is it within the statistical average rates for all MAJOR airlines or all CARGO airlines that operate worldwide? or is it so far outta whack (statistically) that it is a HUGE/glaring problem that needs to be somehow "fixed" yesterday?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the MD11 isn't the only airplane that we've "crashed" (or hull loss or major damage) here at FedEx, is it? (727, MD10, Airbus?)
And...FedEx isn't the only airline that has "crashed" MD11's either, are we? even recently (Shanghai on takeoff)
so.....I don't know/have the stats, but maybe all our MD11 "problems" that this first-time-poster/highly experienced/has-it-all-figured-out "jetkid" is blaming on our FedEx MD11 crews' "juniority" and "lack of experience on the jet" aren't even significant (statistically)
(with all due respect to FX80 crew and their families - of course that single event is/was significant to them)
#36
....why are we crashing airplanes then? We have one of the worst safety records in recent years and I'm curious to know why this is?
Looking all the way back to the 747 crash (Tigers/Fedex) we seem to have gotten away with band-aid fixes until our most recent loss of lives accident.
It's time to figure this out.
Looking all the way back to the 747 crash (Tigers/Fedex) we seem to have gotten away with band-aid fixes until our most recent loss of lives accident.
It's time to figure this out.
Last edited by JetJocF14; 04-04-2010 at 07:52 PM.
#37
sin
Allow me answer your question with another question....
(I don't know the answer to my question either)
What is our overall accident/incident RATE compared to, say, frequency of takeoffs/landings?
Is it within the statistical average rates for all MAJOR airlines or all CARGO airlines that operate worldwide? or is it so far outta whack (statistically) that it is a HUGE/glaring problem that needs to be somehow "fixed" yesterday?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the MD11 isn't the only airplane that we've "crashed" (or hull loss or major damage) here at FedEx, is it? (727, MD10, Airbus?)
And...FedEx isn't the only airline that has "crashed" MD11's either, are we? even recently (Shanghai on takeoff)
so.....I don't know/have the stats, but maybe all our MD11 "problems" that this first-time-poster/highly experienced/has-it-all-figured-out "jetkid" is blaming on our FedEx MD11 crews' "juniority" and "lack of experience on the jet" aren't even significant (statistically)
(with all due respect to FX80 crew and their families - of course that single event is/was significant to them)
Allow me answer your question with another question....
(I don't know the answer to my question either)
What is our overall accident/incident RATE compared to, say, frequency of takeoffs/landings?
Is it within the statistical average rates for all MAJOR airlines or all CARGO airlines that operate worldwide? or is it so far outta whack (statistically) that it is a HUGE/glaring problem that needs to be somehow "fixed" yesterday?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the MD11 isn't the only airplane that we've "crashed" (or hull loss or major damage) here at FedEx, is it? (727, MD10, Airbus?)
And...FedEx isn't the only airline that has "crashed" MD11's either, are we? even recently (Shanghai on takeoff)
so.....I don't know/have the stats, but maybe all our MD11 "problems" that this first-time-poster/highly experienced/has-it-all-figured-out "jetkid" is blaming on our FedEx MD11 crews' "juniority" and "lack of experience on the jet" aren't even significant (statistically)
(with all due respect to FX80 crew and their families - of course that single event is/was significant to them)
#38
Grinding our crews into the dirt with little time to rest does not help. Interesting in each one of our accidents the Company never seems to take any blame or ask themselves what can we do to help our crews. Please not another procedure from our leader sippiping coffee at Starbucks writing emails while our crew are gutting it out in the trenches...... JMHO
#39
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: ANC-Based MD-11 FO
Posts: 328
You would be better equipped to know the problems, possible solutions and be part of the solution if the company had shared the results of the Enders safety audit with us. But management chose instead to hide it from their own employees--especially the only ones whose lives are at risk--and we all just sat back and let it happen. The day after the company announced they were withholding the results of that report, our MEC should have stopped flying and we should have all followed in lock step. Take us to court for an illegal job action? Maybe, but management would never have followed through with it because they could not have mitigated the bashing they would have taken in the press.
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