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Flying Low 05-15-2015 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by aviatorhi (Post 1881013)



Got something more than hearsay? Not saying you're making this up, but the facts would be nice.



See above, can't find a single news story or post which says any of those things.

There was a story in the ALPA magazine in the '80's about an civil American Herc being captured by rebels in Angola. Thought at least one crew member died and the aircraft was destroyed.

Pretty sure it was Transamerica, but I'd have to look for the article.

ClutchCargo 05-15-2015 02:32 PM


Originally Posted by Flying Low (Post 1881563)
There was a story in the ALPA magazine in the '80's about an civil American Herc being captured by rebels in Angola. Thought at least one crew member died and the aircraft was destroyed.

Pretty sure it was Transamerica, but I'd have to look for the article.


It was TransAmerica. I knew the F/E. The F/O was killed when he ran back into the airplane.


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Braniff DC8 05-15-2015 06:05 PM

December 29, 1984 : L-100 c/n 4101, first flown September 17, 1965, leased to Continental Air Services, N9260R, September 1965, then sold to the Government of Zambia, registered 9J-RCV, August 1966. Leased to Zambian Air Cargoes, August 1966, then sold to National Aircraft Leasing, registered N920NA, March 1969, in an FAA series usually reserved for aircraft of the National Aeronautics and Space Administration, same January 1977. Leased to Alaska Airlines, April 1969. Leased to Saturn Airways, N24ST, June 1972, modified to L-100-30, November 1972. Leased to TIA, December 1976, port wing and engines damaged in explosion, May 1977, repaired; sold to TIA, April 1979. To Transamerica, October 1979, green and white scheme, Transamerica T on green tail in white – destroyed on ground as it landed Cafunfo, Angola during UNITA guerrilla attack. Electric buss panel fire due to gunfire spread, hull burnt out. Pilot, flight engineer survive groundfire and are captured by UNITA, repatriated through the Red Cross after a month; first officer, two Diamang couriers, killed by gunfire.[22]

Braniff DC8 05-15-2015 06:06 PM

ASN Aircraft accident Lockheed L-100-30 Hercules N24ST Cafunfo Airport (CFF)

LowSlowT2 05-16-2015 06:07 PM

There were at least two confirmed shoot downs in Angola - one in the early 80s and one in the late 90s, which was, I think, TransAfrik...and another suspected shoot down. Africa isn't always a nice place. Look up GSPC and AQIM...along with state dept notifications for the countries LAC is flying to. I think it's a bit riskier than the stuff they're doing elsewhere...

Not many operators of L100s left. TransAfrik has pretty much gotten out of the business. Maximus is out. SAFAIR is mainly "sitting" their planes on oil spill alert contracts, as is IAR (A-models) and I think First Air just sold their plane to Lynden. That leaves Prescott (one plane), Tepper, and Lynden - for the most part. Good luck getting on with Prescott or Tepper. A few foreign countries have L100 vs C130, but not many. I hear rumors Tepper may switch to J-models, but we'll see. Lynden would like to, I hear, but it's a lot of money.

Of note, only Lynden has been changing center wing boxes to my knowledge. The rest are running out of hours (why Transafrik quit flying them and why SAFAIR is mostly sitting theirs).

gypsypilot 05-17-2015 12:20 AM

I am one of the furloughees who did not accept the recall. I'd be happy to answer any questions any perspective employees may have about LAC via pm.

LowSlowT2 05-23-2015 06:06 PM


Originally Posted by gypsypilot (Post 1882471)
I am one of the furloughees who did not accept the recall. I'd be happy to answer any questions any perspective employees may have about LAC via pm.

Yes, but you live in paradise now...hardly unbiased. ;)

A Squared 09-05-2015 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by Braniff DC8 (Post 1881028)
and they furlough and recall all the time.

I'm not sure that it's accurate to say that they furlough and hire "all the time". They furloughed 10 pilots and 8 FEs in two stages in the last couple of years, so I guess you could count that as 2 furloughs if you like. There has only been one furlough prior to that, sometime around 2002. That one was pretty brief. Not to be dismissive of the furloughs, those are never good, but it's not like there's a constant cycle of laying off and rehiring of flight crew as you seem to be suggesting.

A Squared 09-05-2015 05:33 PM


Originally Posted by RadialGal (Post 1881012)
You are in a safe area in Ethiopia.

Yes, Ethiopia is relatively secure. However the flying was into South Sudan which is a bit less secure. There is a civil war going on there with opposition forces holding some of the territory in the country. A helicopter on contract to the UN was shot down by opposition forces in South Sudan last summer. The UN initially tried to claim that it was an accident. It wasn't. The flights into one refugee camp were suspended for several days a during the contract for what the WFP euphemistically called "civil unrest". They admitted to the deaths of around 25 people in the camp. People actually on the ground there reported that death toll was actually more like 100. When your flight paperwork includes security reports on where the rebel forces are thought to be and what anti-aircraft weapons they are believed to possess, and your flying into a location where 100+ people got killed a few weeks ago, you're not exactly in Kansas any more, Toto.


Originally Posted by RadialGal (Post 1881012)
The gigs in Dubai are private beach front bungalos,(sic) like something out of a Bond move. Huge French doors. no noise but the waves to fall asleep to.

Not sure who you've been talking to, but they've been blowing smoke up your tailpipe. There are no luxurious private "bungalows". And they are not in Dubai, it's one of the other, poorer emirates. They are apartments in a multi story apartment building, a little larger than a typical hotel room. The "luxury" level is probably comparable to a Holiday Inn Express. The idea that the crews are living in James Bond style opulence is pure fantasy.

Braniff DC8 01-06-2016 04:53 AM

Looking again. Look here on APC as well.

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