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Freightpuppy 07-27-2006 08:30 AM


Originally Posted by To Stay or Go
I should have gone to FedEx!!

Oh geez. The grass isn't always greener on the other side.

:)

UPSFO4LIFE 07-27-2006 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by Freightpuppy
jungle,
Where did you get the info that the air group has the highest profitability? I have heard that the air group is the opposite but necessary for the operation. I am just wondering where your info comes from. Thanks.


I have asked the same question for years now. From what I have been told, the airline does have the most profitability within the company. Just to give you an example, one full can on the 8 pays for the the entire cost for that flight. You can do the math. The 8 holds 17 A2 cans and 1 slightly smaller L9 can on the top. You can also get about 4-5 more loose load cans in the belly. So yes, for the size of the air ops at UPS, they do in fact have the highest profitability of any other group.

FreightDawg2 07-27-2006 10:05 AM

Jungle
 
Interesting that you would think that the TA was the FIRST written offer. Do you think that our NC was so lame to accept the FIRST offer? Do you not think that the TA was the cumlmination of MANY offers and counter-offers? I have to believe that JM and BT are more savvy than that and we are seeing the end of the road, not the beginning. I know the numbers may not be what we think we are worth, but my buds in management tell me that we aren't worth what we are being paid now!:(

captain_drew 07-27-2006 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by To Stay or Go
I should have gone to FedEx!!

. . . . . . DUH !

Pilot7576 07-27-2006 01:55 PM

ups or fedex
 
To stay or go..

Based on your name here, I don't think you will ever be happy anywhere! Like freightpuppy says, the grass isn't always greener. There are warts at every company; you just have to be able to live with them.

Instead of worrying, enjoy your family and friends and pour a single malt and enjoy the sunset. Life is more than just ups or fedex, be happy that you can afford the single malt no matter which you chose...

JMO

Pilot7576

320Driver 07-27-2006 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by Pilot7576
To stay or go..

Based on your name here, I don't think you will ever be happy anywhere! Like freightpuppy says, the grass isn't always greener. There are warts at every company; you just have to be able to live with them.

Instead of worrying, enjoy your family and friends and pour a single malt and enjoy the sunset. Life is more than just ups or fedex, be happy that you can afford the single malt no matter which you chose...

JMO

Pilot7576

Couldn't agree more! Well said...

BoynamedSue 07-28-2006 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by Pilot7576
To stay or go..

Based on your name here, I don't think you will ever be happy anywhere! Like freightpuppy says, the grass isn't always greener. There are warts at every company; you just have to be able to live with them.

Pilot7576


i guess what is important is to not be the wart.

NightFR8Pilot 07-28-2006 01:55 PM


Originally Posted by FreightDawg2
...but my buds in management tell me that we aren't worth what we are being paid now!

Now there's a smart bunch of guys. :rolleyes:

jungle 07-28-2006 07:26 PM

Freighpuppy, Take a look in the annual stockholders report. It breaks earnings down into dollars and percentages. The highest profit margins are in the International package business(although they are not the biggest dollar number, that goes to domestic, with overnight domestic at the highest margin for domestic). Until they build roads across the ocean or drive trucks on the sea floor at 600 MPH, this shouldn't change and is anticipated to continue growing.

BrownGirls YUM 07-29-2006 07:20 AM

You guys should quit arguing and buy some of that stock while it's on sale. I did.


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