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Originally Posted by natman (Post 866580)

When they do start to hire, will new hires be able to stay in the states? Or go to HKG?

Yes..........

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Originally Posted by TheBaron (Post 866292)

Second year minimum pay is $67,343,12 not including per diem. That is 17 hours a week at 59.39 (727 2nd officer.)

Second year is a bit better for since pay is $76.18, although 59.39*17*52 sums up to 52.5k so think distraction came into play for you.

For comparison,
at the mins for 8-4 week months and 4-5 week months
Yr 2 pay si
SO 67.3k
NB FO 101.2
WB FO 123.5

And, as bad as training pay\first year pay seems to us. It is better than almost every other airline out there. And the ones we pay less than, well, the pay curve accelerates in our favor quickly.

Could be better, but it could be a lot worse as well. Raising the salary rates will bump first year pay up and make the pain a bit more short lived.

Providing incentive for a newhire to bid HKG is the companies problem, not ours.

Natman,
Yes, a newhire has to stay on this planet. Either stateside or HKG (or ANC) answers your question.

Someone who's hired has to specifically choose to be domiciled in HKG or ANC. There are no involuntary assignments outside the CONUS for FedEx.

Doesn't mean that FedEx isn't going to call you up and say we are hiring for positions in HKG, can we put you down for a class date or do you want to wait for Memphis?

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Originally Posted by natman (Post 866580)

When they do start to hire, will new hires be able to stay in the states? Or go to HKG?

When FDX sent newhires to ANC they were offered a choice. Start early and go to ANC or wait a few months and start in MEM. They really didn't want to send newhires but they were forced to because not enough line holders bid it.

The short of it is we don't know what the company will offer you. But I think it's safe to say they won't hold it against you if you choose to wait for a MEM opening. They would like to send folks that want to stay longer than the minimum time.

Rumor mill ... says we have greater than 900 folks that are currently eligible to retire (age 60 -or- >25 years). There could be a mass exodus if contract negotiations get ugly? :confused:

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Originally Posted by MaydayMark (Post 866615)

Rumor mill ... says we have greater than 900 folks that are currently eligible to retire (age 60 -or- >25 years). There could be a mass exodus if contract negotiations get ugly? :confused:

Which might explain the new game we have to play to log in. Maybe they all have the same VIPS password. Begins with p and ends with d.

A1, B5, F2....I've got BINGO!!

The pool table is being remove in favor of shuffleboard next week.

Attention in the AOC...Tues is now Butter Pecan Ensure day. Don't miss it!

I'm curious... how many of you poolies would pass on HK if offered today and wait for an undefined Memphis 727S/O gig? Best of luck to you for whatever FX has in store. Looking forward to seeing you all here. It was worth the wait.

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Originally Posted by K0H1K0 (Post 866637)

I'm curious... how many of you poolies would pass on HK if offered today and wait for an undefined Memphis 727S/O gig? .......

Get back to your cubicle

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Originally Posted by Daniel Larusso (Post 866296)

It ain't about that at all. It's easy to sum it up if you're just talking about training pay. We're sitting here, and we're supposed to be a major airline, and we're talking about training pay. I mean listen, we're sitting here talking about training pay, not the line, not the line, not the line, but we're talking about training pay. Not the line that we go out there and die for and fly every trip as if it's our last but we're talking about training pay. How silly is that?

Now I know that we're supposed to lead by example and all that but I'm not shoving that aside like it don't mean anything. I know it's important, I honestly do but we're talking about training pay. We're talking about training pay man. We're talking about training pay. We're talking about training pay. We're not talking about the line. We're talking about training pay. When you come to the aoc, and you see me fly, you've seen me fly right, you've seen me give everything I've got, but we're talking about training pay right now.

Nice...Allen Iverson would be proud.

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Originally Posted by TurboDVR42 (Post 865901)

Hi,
Sorry I don't mean to get off topic, but has their been people hired at fedex w/out the tb pic? For example, say if the applicant meets the tt req. but lags the tb pic.

Thanks...

The recommended qualifications specifically indicate turboprop or turbine PIC however if you know Fred or a couple Senators there may be some leeway, but aside from that you'll need the kerosene burners. Note it says "typical qualifications" :rolleyes:

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Typical qualifications for consideration as a FedEx pilot.

Commercial Pilot Certificate with Multi-engine and Instrument rating (without limitations)
Current ATP Certificate or written
Current FE Turbojet Rating or written (FEX or Basic/turbojet)
Must pass FAA mandated drug screen
Recency and type of experience is considered
Meet requirements for and currently hold First Class Medical certification
20/20 correctable vision
College Degree from an accredited college or university
Eligibility for rapid visa issuance, issued by offices in the United States to fly to any FedEx destination.
Ability to obtain clearance from United States Postal Service for handling or access to U.S. mail, which includes FBI fingerprint check, and candidate must have resided in the United States for the last five consecutive years (except for U.S. military assignments)
Eligibility for issuance of US Security Clearance
1500 hours total fixed-wing time as pilot-in-command (PIC) or second-in-command in multi-engine turbo-prop A/C or jet A/C or combination thereof, including a minimum of 1000 hours total fixed-wing pilot-in-command in multi-engine turbo prop A/C or jet A/C or combination thereof.
Note: PIC for this purpose is defined as Captain/Aircraft Commander of record, not simply the sole manipulator of the controls.
Note: FedEx considers only pilot time in fixed wing aircraft toward minimum qualifications. This does not include simulator, helicopter, flight engineer, bombardier, navigator, RIO, EWO, WSO, NFO, or Special Crew.
All certificates and ratings required to be U.S.A. FAA issued