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Gunter 08-01-2010 07:31 AM


Originally Posted by ANGFDX (Post 848846)
Any idea how many poolies there are right now?
Seems like the "pilot need" trend is on the upslope - maybe good news soon?:)

Treading since Feb '07....

Now that our training letter is out the crystal ball is slightly clearer. 757 training is scheduled to have relatively slow throughput.

Based on that I predict poolies will be called for class dates in January.

DLax85 08-01-2010 10:49 AM

I think Gunters prediction of Jan '11 is a good one --- or perhaps early spring.

Looking at the training letter, we now know there are 146 SOs leaving over the next 13 months.

(Note: This number is lower than the actual bid award because LCAs, FLEXs, Flight Test guys, etc., bid higher seats for the passover pay, but are not headed to training over the next year)

Here are the actual # of 727 SOs leaving each month for uprgrade training:

Monthly/Overall Total

2010

Aug - 7 / 7
Sep - 18 / 25
Oct - 12 / 37
Nov - 0 / 37
Dec - 3 / 40

2011
Jan - 15 / 55
Feb - 15 / 70
Mar - 15 / 85
Apr - 24 / 109
May - 19 / 128
Jun - 6 /134
Jul - 4 / 138
Aug - 4 / 142
Sep - 4 /146

Additionally, it appears the # of Over Age 65 guys coming to the back for their final swan song currently remains a trickle.

Given we are about 50 guys overmanned in the SO seat right now --- Jan or Feb 2011 should be the date.

...however, let's remember the 727 fleet is scheduled to shrink quite a bit in 2011, so it wouldn't surprise me if the date slipped a few months into the early spring just before 58 SOs are scheduled to leave the seat in just 3 months (Mar/Apr/May).

So hang in there poolies, the rain has stopped and the sun is peeking through the clouds --- keep your heads up and your cell phones on!!

Motorrad 08-02-2010 03:03 PM

DLax – Thanks for the info and insight. Many of us have been keepin our heads above water for nearly 4 years and this is certainly a move in the right direction. I think I can speak for the rest of us and say thanks again and we hope to join you guys/gals soon!

ANGFDX 08-03-2010 03:56 AM

Thanks!
 
Thanks Gunter and DLax!
Greatly appreciate the numerically based perspective and prediction.
I, along with the other poolies, are always looking for perspective on the movements and growth.
Hope to see you soon on the AOC floor...

ANGFDX 08-03-2010 04:11 AM

Calling all poolies...
Ready to hang the bathing suit up? So am I.

I thought it might be good for us to contact each other via email to keep informed as to the latest developments.
If you are interested - send me a PM and I'll compose an email group for us to use.
Fly safe and good luck!

bottomfeeder2 08-03-2010 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by DLax85 (Post 849006)
I think Gunters prediction of Jan '11 is a good one --- or perhaps early spring.

Looking at the training letter, we now know there are 146 SOs leaving over the next 13 months.

(Note: This number is lower than the actual bid award because LCAs, FLEXs, Flight Test guys, etc., bid higher seats for the passover pay, but are not headed to training over the next year)

Here are the actual # of 727 SOs leaving each month for uprgrade training:

Monthly/Overall Total

2010

Aug - 7 / 7
Sep - 18 / 25
Oct - 12 / 37
Nov - 0 / 37
Dec - 3 / 40

2011
Jan - 15 / 55
Feb - 15 / 70
Mar - 15 / 85
Apr - 24 / 109
May - 19 / 128
Jun - 6 /134
Jul - 4 / 138
Aug - 4 / 142
Sep - 4 /146

Additionally, it appears the # of Over Age 65 guys coming to the back for their final swan song currently remains a trickle.

Given we are about 50 guys overmanned in the SO seat right now --- Jan or Feb 2011 should be the date.

...however, let's remember the 727 fleet is scheduled to shrink quite a bit in 2011, so it wouldn't surprise me if the date slipped a few months into the early spring just before 58 SOs are scheduled to leave the seat in just 3 months (Mar/Apr/May).

So hang in there poolies, the rain has stopped and the sun is peeking through the clouds --- keep your heads up and your cell phones on!!


Is there an easy way to see those #'s Dlax, or did you just go thru each training letter and total them up...month to month?? Thanks

Jumbo Pilot 08-03-2010 04:52 PM

Knowing DLAX ... he most likely did it the the long tedious hard way...


And thanks buddy!!.. for the work.

DLax85 08-03-2010 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by Jumbo Pilot (Post 850244)
Knowing DLAX ... he most likely did it the the long tedious hard way...


And thanks buddy!!.. for the work.

Guilty ---- just totaled them up from each training letter.

bleedairpacks 08-04-2010 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by Motorrad (Post 849678)
DLax – Thanks for the info and insight. Many of us have been keepin our heads above water for nearly 4 years and this is certainly a move in the right direction. I think I can speak for the rest of us and say thanks again and we hope to join you guys/gals soon!

Keep up the positive attitude. Keep all your stuff updated (ATP, FE, etc) and it'll happen. I've also had some guys I sponsored get in touch with them recently. The corp guys will get first shot, but hang in there. Old farts like myself will hang up their jock soon and clear a spot for you.

:cool:

30 From Bottom 08-12-2010 06:07 AM

FYI poolies...I know a few corp guys (haven't heard from an pros yet) that have been given 727 S/O class dates in Jan and Feb. I would guess you guys might see classes starting in March or April??? Just a guess though!?!?

Just wanted to give you guys something to go on...I know you've been treading water for a long time!!!


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