Everts Air Cargo
I got a request to update my resume with them. Anybody know anything in regards to pay, AC, Basing, Schedule, QOL, Morale?
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Originally Posted by flyguy37
(Post 854252)
I got a request to update my resume with them. Anybody know anything in regards to pay, AC, Basing, Schedule, QOL, Morale?
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That sounds like what Chuck said at Buffalo Airways before walking out the hangar door!
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When a Captain or First Officer is forced to defecate into their flight kit, things have definitely taken a direct course or path to the lower depths of HELL!!!!
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But was it a company provided flight kit?
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The only thing that Everts provides is a one way ticket to the lower depths of hell. They treat their crews like absolute Dog ****. The "cool" factor wears off real quick when you're being asked to break regs, carry squawks, or work on your days off with no increase in pay. The place sucks.........!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by 2bennySODC6
(Post 1301013)
The only thing that Everts provides is a one way ticket to the lower depths of hell. They treat their crews like absolute Dog ****. The "cool" factor wears off real quick when you're being asked to break regs, carry squawks, or work on your days off with no increase in pay. The place sucks.........!!!!!!!!!
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QOL=Low, Morale=Low, Schedule= American pilot super-glued to a Mexican Toilet coated in feces with no passport or cell phone.
Yes, Everts is always hiring, into the Engineer Seat. Unless you have a ton of DC-9 time or are really good at kissing you know what, good luck getting awarded that seat. If you do, you'll be jumping the seniority line. The Chief pilot will most certainly tell you to come on down for the DC-9 but then out of nowhere you'll find yourself in a F.E. class, temporarily of course. The best thing I ever did was get the heck out of that place. I have several other friends who have done the same. The only thing that we all seem to regret is not leaving that dump earlier. Seriously, think long and hard before you go there. They have a history of mishaps and will throw you under the bus without thinking twice. Good luck.:mad::mad::D |
Originally Posted by MEMbrain
(Post 1301064)
I hear they are getting DC-9Fs and MD-80Fs. Are they hiring? What's the chance of getting jets as a newhire? What's the pay and QOL?
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Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1301170)
Why do you care? You work at Fed Ex! :rolleyes:
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MEMbrain, Sent you a PM
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If you're in ANC I would def suggest stopping by their office. I went in there one day to buy a hat for a friend. Let's just say there were a few "items" in that office that made me almost want to work there :)
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Are these guys still flying? Haven't heard much about the place lately. I wonder if they're still operating up in Alaska.
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They fly day and night in Alaska. Check em out on flightaware.
Don't know if the lower 48 flying will be happening anytime soon. |
they are flying the dc-9, dc-6, and c-46.
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What's the pay like? Not to fire up an old thread but have seen them post jobs on the orange sit and was curious.
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Last time I had any contact with anyone there the -6 FEs started at $45 an hour and could fly 100 hours a month.
That was a while ago though. |
Saw a couple posts on the Orange board. Supposedly they're looking for DC-9/MD-80 crews. Asked around and this is what I got: New DO(ex Falcon Air??) is on POWER TRIP, handing out suspensions left and right. MD80 continues to sit on ramp in FAI costing company $$$. Company upgrades out of seniority. Thats all folks…!!:D
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Does anyone know the name of the new D.O. from Falcon Air?
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The word on the street is that your md80 has some major issues with it and that's why it's parked, large enough issues that everts is unable to pawn it off on anyone else. Any ideas of what is so wrong with her?
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Looks like someone is trying to recruit World pilots on another thread. If they award seats out of seniority, they obviously aren't Unionized.
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Everts is looking for MD-80 drivers on the orange site, but not on their company website. Are they actually hiring or just gathering resumes? If so, does anyone know how many they are looking to take on?
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I don't know man, I did some research and talked to a few guys over there and it doesn't seem like a very good place to work. No work rules, no UNION, no contract, no schedule, overzealous check airman, and a quality of life that makes USA Jet look like a step in the right direction.
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Starting pay for the right seat in the 9&80 is $55/hr. Guaranteed 60 hours a month. 13 bid periods a year.... $42,900 a year.
You will hardly ever break guarantee. If you do it will only be by a few hours in the summer. Pay raise is usually $2/hr every year with a cap at the six year mark. Per Diem is 1.85 an hour. Deadhead pay is 1/3 of hourly rate. 401K matching 50% up to first 8%... nothing after that. Two weeks of paid vacation after your first year. If you need time off the first year it comes out of your guarantee. Everts has no union. The schedule is usually five days on and two days off if you're in Alaska. Either Mon-Fri or Tues-Sat. No flying on Sundays. In the summer you can expect to work six days in a row. It is not a commuting schedule. They do have CASS. If you're assigned to the lower 48 you will be gone a month at a time and your only days off will be a 24 hour window when there is no charter even though you will be standing by for a flight. So that's the schedule. QOL is what you make it. Morale is very low..... very very low. Nobody believes in mgmt or dispatch. The crew scheduler is liked by a few but not many. You will load and unload your aircraft anytime you are away from Anchorage. You will become a pallet jack and forklift driving pro. You will fuel your aircraft and when on the road help the mechanic. The 9 has no FMS/GPS. Has old radios and autopilot. The 80 isn't much better except it has FMS and auto-throttle. You can get hired directly into the right seat of the 9 & 80. They have been having a hard time keeping guys and gals in class once they see the operation. The paychecks are on time and they cash. If you have anything else you want to know just ask. |
Originally Posted by ncbull
(Post 1830017)
Starting pay for the right seat in the 9&80 is $55/hr. Guaranteed 60 hours a month. 13 bid periods a year.... $42,900 a year.
You will hardly ever break guarantee. If you do it will only be by a few hours in the summer. Pay raise is usually $2/hr every year with a cap at the six year mark. Per Diem is 1.85 an hour. Deadhead pay is 1/3 of hourly rate. 401K matching 50% up to first 8%... nothing after that. Two weeks of paid vacation after your first year. If you need time off the first year it comes out of your guarantee. Everts has no union. The schedule is usually five days on and two days off if you're in Alaska. Either Mon-Fri or Tues-Sat. No flying on Sundays. In the summer you can expect to work six days in a row. It is not a commuting schedule. They do have CASS. If you're assigned to the lower 48 you will be gone a month at a time and your only days off will be a 24 hour window when there is no charter even though you will be standing by for a flight. So that's the schedule. QOL is what you make it. Morale is very low..... very very low. Nobody believes in mgmt or dispatch. The crew scheduler is liked by a few but not many. You will load and unload your aircraft anytime you are away from Anchorage. You will become a pallet jack and forklift driving pro. You will fuel your aircraft and when on the road help the mechanic. The 9 has no FMS/GPS. Has old radios and autopilot. The 80 isn't much better except it has FMS and auto-throttle. You can get hired directly into the right seat of the 9 & 80. They have been having a hard time keeping guys and gals in class once they see the operation. The paychecks are on time and they cash. If you have anything else you want to know just ask. |
Originally Posted by akfrtdwg 57
(Post 1830360)
There's more. 80 is 20 days on 10 off. Commute on your days off. They will tell you right before your shift starts where to meet the aircraft. That location is to be considered your "Domicile" for the shift. No per diem paid while you are there. So to put it simply. You have a floating domicile and you are responsible to space-a yourself to wherever the company wants you tobe.
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Originally Posted by HappyCrew
(Post 1830393)
With all the hiring going on right now, who is actually taking positions like these?? A floating domicile?? Really??
A friend who still works there said they only have five captains and five first officers to run three airplanes with. One 80 captain and one 80 first officer to run the 80 with. As far as the sign goes I didn't even know they had a sign. |
It's almost as if they are begging now on the Orange site but also the company website! Shame really.
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Originally Posted by akfrtdwg 57
(Post 1830360)
There's more. 80 is 20 days on 10 off. Commute on your days off. They will tell you right before your shift starts where to meet the aircraft. That location is to be considered your "Domicile" for the shift. No per diem paid while you are there. So to put it simply. You have a floating domicile and you are responsible to space-a yourself to wherever the company wants you tobe.
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Originally Posted by akfrtdwg 57
(Post 1830360)
There's more. 80 is 20 days on 10 off. Commute on your days off. They will tell you right before your shift starts where to meet the aircraft. That location is to be considered your "Domicile" for the shift. No per diem paid while you are there. So to put it simply. You have a floating domicile and you are responsible to space-a yourself to wherever the company wants you tobe.
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Originally Posted by METO Guido
(Post 1856292)
Duffle stuff hot or cold, last minute space-a to knob routed, trifocal RW hunt w charted missed no MCP? For the record, you boys rock.
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Originally Posted by akfrtdwg 57
(Post 1830360)
There's more. 80 is 20 days on 10 off. Commute on your days off. They will tell you right before your shift starts where to meet the aircraft. That location is to be considered your "Domicile" for the shift. No per diem paid while you are there. So to put it simply. You have a floating domicile and you are responsible to space-a yourself to wherever the company wants you tobe.
Do they expect you to "space A" on company aircraft only? The company could build that into your schedule, but that would be work days under 1 in 7 calculations. From the little information here, seems like the company may be running afoul of 1-7 and FAA duty requirements, IRS and state taxing authority, and OAL Jumpseat agreements. What kind of outfit is this? |
Originally Posted by Raptor
(Post 1856354)
The company should pay to get you to a "floating domicile". If they expect you to get there by jumpseating as official policy, the the company is violating the Jumpseat agreements they have negotiated. Jumpseating is reserved for personal use by the pilot's choice. While the pilot can certainly use it to go to work by HIS/HER choice, the company can not direct it on other carriers.
Do they expect you to "space A" on company aircraft only? The company could build that into your schedule, but that would be work days under 1 in 7 calculations. From the little information here, seems like the company may be running afoul of 1-7 and FAA duty requirements, IRS and state taxing authority, and OAL Jumpseat agreements. What kind of outfit is this? Until the FAA put a stop to it. Maybe somebody needs to make an anonymous call to a FSDO. Total dirt bag outfit. |
Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob
(Post 1856358)
Kalitta used to play that game in the early '90s with their domestic operation. They also used to tell pilots sitting reserve that hadn't had any duty in six days that their 1/7 had happened already since they weren't assigned, and that they hoped they enjoyed it.
Until the FAA put a stop to it. Maybe somebody needs to make an anonymous call to a FSDO. Total dirt bag outfit. Kalitta or FedEx? |
Originally Posted by whitekeys
(Post 1856389)
Kalitta or FedEx?
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Originally Posted by Raptor
(Post 1856347)
I'm feeling old or English is no longer my primary language!
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Originally Posted by Raptor
(Post 1856254)
Each state could legally tax you.
You are taxed based on your home of record with one exception. California can take income taxes based on the amount of flying you do within the state. At my airline, I was LAX based but never paid a penny of CA income tax because I did NO intraCA flying. |
Originally Posted by Packrat
(Post 1856712)
Wrong.
You are taxed based on your home of record with one exception. California can take income taxes based on the amount of flying you do within the state. At my airline, I was LAX based but never paid a penny of CA income tax because I did NO intraCA flying. Ask a MLB player if they pay taxes in every state they play in--they do, regardless of their home of record. |
Originally Posted by Raptor
(Post 1856816)
I was trying to make the point that if they have a floating domicile, then they havreceived. [49 U.S.C.S. §14503(b)(2) to be essentially changing your work location. While your home of record may not change, your tax domicile can change with what they are doing. This has implications on what is deductible and what isn't.
Ask a MLB player if they pay taxes in every state they play in--they do, regardless of their home of record. |
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