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Old 08-11-2010, 10:43 AM
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I tried to figure out my bid strategy for September, but haven't been able to decipher the contract well enough. Can someone help me understand if protect min days off applies during a month when ITU starts the 4th week of a 5 week bid month? I will likely get a reserve line and plan to put as many R days under the ITU footprint as I can, but of I get stuck with a bunch of R days in the first 3 weeks, will min days off remove them? Also, are training days paid as R days? Thanks for any help you can provide. Here is the section of the contract I think is relevant (25.I.3.e):

The custom line for a pilot who has been removed from a portion of his line due to the beginning of ITU training, shall include a 48 hour duty free period immediately prior to the beginning of ITU training. Any trips on the pilot’s awarded line not in conflict with the pilot’s training or training buffer will be included on his custom line. The number of additional credit hours placed on such pilot’s custom line shall be limited to the following:

Trip(s) CH minus (R-day value times trip days in actual conflict with training) minus 12 CH training buffer.
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Old 08-11-2010, 10:51 AM
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I tried to figure out my bid strategy for September, but haven't been able to decipher the contract well enough. Can someone help me understand if protect min days off applies during a month when ITU starts the 4th week of a 5 week bid month? I will likely get a reserve line and plan to put as many R days under the ITU footprint as I can, but of I get stuck with a bunch of R days in the first 3 weeks, will min days off remove them? Also, are training days paid as R days? Thanks for any help you can provide. Here is the section of the contract I think is relevant (25.I.3.e):

The custom line for a pilot who has been removed from a portion of his line due to the beginning of ITU training, shall include a 48 hour duty free period immediately prior to the beginning of ITU training. Any trips on the pilot’s awarded line not in conflict with the pilot’s training or training buffer will be included on his custom line. The number of additional credit hours placed on such pilot’s custom line shall be limited to the following:

Trip(s) CH minus (R-day value times trip days in actual conflict with training) minus 12 CH training buffer.
What did Contract Admin say?
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Old 08-11-2010, 10:57 AM
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What did Contract Admin say?
That will be my next move if I don't get an answer here.
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Old 08-11-2010, 11:47 AM
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That will be my next move if I don't get an answer here.
Why would an answer here be preferable to one from Contract Admin?
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That will be my next move if I don't get an answer here.
Seriously? I think you have it reversed my man...
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Old 08-11-2010, 07:04 PM
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Ok, message received. Thanks for all the help.
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Ever get an answer from Contract enforcement??
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Old 08-13-2010, 07:15 AM
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Ever get an answer from Contract enforcement??
Yes, they told me that min days off did NOT apply and any trips or R days that did not conflict with ITU or the 48 hour buffer would remain on my schedule. Then, the formula in section 25.I.3.e would be used to determine if any additional hours would be added to my custom line. I am protecting min days off anyway, just in case. Hope that helps.
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Old 08-15-2010, 08:48 PM
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Yes, they told me that min days off did NOT apply and any trips or R days that did not conflict with ITU or the 48 hour buffer would remain on my schedule.
So if awarded a VTO and protected min days off first month of ITU, one could work the first 2 weeks then go to training for 19 days all for the same pay?
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Old 08-15-2010, 09:01 PM
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So if awarded a VTO and protected min days off first month of ITU, one could work the first 2 weeks then go to training for 19 days all for the same pay?
pretty much!
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