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Old 08-17-2006, 06:56 PM
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Okay, so they move the pairings up by five minutes...fine. Of course we'll do it. Ask us to actually do 10 minutes early and take lots of "directs" if we can? MGT has a lot of gall asking for that from the pilots at this point in time. I say give 'em 15 minutes if you can and get direct as much as you can-AFTER a T/A is ratified. Until then, not a bit above 100%, and not a second early (not late, mind you, but screw the idea of giving anything extra at this point in time).

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Old 08-17-2006, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BrownGirls YUM View Post
Okay, so they move the pairings up by five minutes...fine. Of course we'll do it. Ask us to actually do 10 minutes early and take lots of "directs" if we can? MGT has a lot of gall asking for that from the pilots at this point in time. I say give 'em 15 minutes if you can and get direct as much as you can-AFTER a T/A is ratified. Until then, not a bit above 100%, and not a second early (not late, mind you, but screw the idea of giving anything extra at this point in time).

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What happened to that FCIF, I can't find it!
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Old 08-17-2006, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog View Post
What happened to that FCIF, I can't find it!
I viewed it on VIPS and then could not find it again either, but I read your post first and copied it before I hit continue. Here it is.

Memphis August Inbound Times


For those of you who experience the Memphis arrival congo line nightly,
you are also aware of the departure congo line too.

In an effort to relieve the sort a little so that outbound flights operate
like they are supposed to (i.e., on time), many inbound flights have been
rescheduled 5 minutes earlier in an effort to "load" the sort sooner. The
sort is still driven by the West Coast arrivals. which drive the East
Coast departures. However, if there are less boxes in the hub when the
West Coast bank arrives, the better the opportunity for actually getting
the East Coast departures out on time.

Thus, beginning August 21, 2006, the below listed flights will have a 5
(five) minute earlier departure than published in the August bid pack.
These pairings were all checked for legality within the FAR's and the CBA.

So...if 5 minutes early is good, then 10 minutes early would be even
better, right? And what to do if you push late from the inbound station?
Go fast? Initially, let's do it this way. Do your usual great work of
flying as many "directs" as usual while flying your assigned speed. Oil is
down some but not that much, and we need to figure out if this really
helps out or not.

Notice that only about a little over half of the inbounds are moved
up....mostly the early arrivals. If your flight is listed below in the
easy-to-read format I was provided, please check your pairing in the near
future for the change associated with this revision. Too many VIPS notices
to even attempt them. For now, this revision will last until the end of
the August bid period. However, if it helps relieve the sort pressure, we
all know it will carry over into the future. Sorry for the lack of city
identifiers......

Jack Lewis
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Originally Posted by 2cylinderdriver View Post
I If your flight is listed below in the
easy-to-read format I was provided, please check your pairing in the near
future for the change associated with this revision. Too many VIPS notices
to even attempt them. For now, this revision will last until the end of
the August bid period.
This is the part I wanted to see again! Hmmm, is this change trips via FCIF instead of VIPS Notifications?
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Old 08-18-2006, 04:10 AM
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Revision, did someone say revision? $$$$$$
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Old 08-18-2006, 05:03 AM
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It's BS to change it in an FCIF and not a VIPS notification.
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Old 08-18-2006, 05:13 AM
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I've addressed this topic before.


FCIF is NOT an acceptable form of notification. Your obligation is to show AT showtime, and not a minute early.


Not five minutes early.

Not ten minutes early.


You have no duty to check FCIFs when you are off-duty. Check them after Showtime.



Parameters are published in the FOM for your particular aircraft.



If the flight plan wasn't good enough, it wouldn't be the flight plan.

If ATC needs me to alter my routing for his convenience, I'm more that happy to help. However, I will NOT be REQUESTING direct routing so I can get in the bed a couple of minutes early. I haven't requested direct anywhere since the Company went crying to the NMB, and I won't be requesting direct until they give us a ratifiable TA.




Showtime is Showtime.




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Old 08-18-2006, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 2cylinderdriver View Post
Memphis August Inbound Times


For those of you who experience the Memphis arrival congo line nightly,
you are also aware of the departure congo line too.
WHAT an ********* !! Not only is he asking you to go 'above and beyond' -TWO+ years after the contract expired. . . he has no idea what he is talking about.

Jack . . it is "conga" line, stupid . . Congo in in Africa. Give the folks the contract they deserve . .and THEN ask them to 'cooperate'. I hope you folks just ignore this crap.
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Old 08-18-2006, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by captain_drew View Post

I hope you folks just ignore this crap.
Routinely.



I talked to a Block Rep today... he pointed out that the side of our airplanes say, "The World On Time".


It doesn't say anything about early.








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Originally Posted by TonyC View Post
Routinely.



I talked to a Block Rep today... he pointed out that the side of our airplanes say, "The World On Time".


It doesn't say anything about early.








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I show at show time and not a minute early. Show me the money.
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