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ClutchCargo 08-22-2006 10:46 AM


Originally Posted by CaptainMark (Post 54703)
i heard huge progress was made and should see a TA in about a week or 2...from a good source..anyone hear anything similar...?

Doubtful... read the MEC Vice-Chair's message from yesterday:


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Recent publicity about the state of our contract negotiations has led many to believe that a resolution is at hand. In fact, at least one very senior member of corporate management has indicated to a third party that the deal will be done soon. That opinion has some life on our crew buses as well.


Yes, we are halfway through a two-week schedule of negotiations. Yes, the National Mediation Board (NMB) mediator has indicated that both parties SHOULD be able to reach an agreement sooner rather than later.


But, here are two thoughts on the subject from the perspective of an elected representative and a cynic (born from experience, not genetics):


The NMB won’t be stroking the check, FedEx will. All optimism aside, unless and until that metaphorical "check" is manifest in writing in the form of better work rules, retirement, pay, etc., then nothing can be assumed. Credit should be given to the NMB representatives who are trying to facilitate these negotiations, but with all due respect, the ultimate decision on what FedEx management will be willing to offer will come from way up the FedEx corporate ladder and nowhere else.
In that light, it is the rank-and-file FedEx pilot who continues to be the most critical element in this whole process, for that same corporate management will continue to assess you until we sign this contract. Up until the time that you have a TA in your hands to vote on, that will remain true. Any distractions or abeyance of your manifest convictions and focus now could result in an undesired consequence later.

Progress has been made at the table, and that is a good thing. But that progress has not come easy nor will it, even in the eleventh hour and fifty-ninth minute of these negotiations. Metaphorically … eyes focused straight ahead and one hand on the scabbard.




Thanks for your time.

MD11Fr8Dog 08-22-2006 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by CaptainMark (Post 54703)
i heard huge progress was made and should see a TA in about a week or 2...from a good source..anyone hear anything similar...?

As the very old FedEx saying goes, "Until its painted purple and parked on the ramp......"!

RedeyeAV8r 08-22-2006 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog (Post 54776)
As the very old FedEx saying goes, "Until its painted purple and parked on the ramp......"!

I remember an email from SCP J.L. from last year saying we would have a deal before summer.......2006. I believe he also said we would have a European Domicile (CDG, ZUR, CGN )bid out in the fall of 2005.

During Contract neg 1998........I remember MGT saying something about 100 737's coming any day now. ( of course it was tentative to FPA agreeing to certain things)
Oh yeah and CDG was coming any day now as a domicile back then too!..............( Again tentative on FPA agreeing on things)

Keep your eye on the Ball!!

GreaseA6 08-22-2006 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 54707)
True or not, good source or bad, it's exactly the kind of rumor the Company would like. The temptation is to "let up" knowing that a TA is just around the corner.

Don't waver. DO NOT BLINK.

When it's here, it's here, and not a nanosecond sooner.

Your actions as an individual MATTER!.

Couldn't agree more. If you've read the most recent ALPA news brief you saw that Gemini ratified their TA at....drumroll please.......51%. So Gemini mgtmnt wins the cupie doll for hitting the 50%+1 on the figurative head. We need to stick together so as to do even better.

Los1 08-22-2006 01:16 PM

Now is not the time to let up!!
Stick together, hang tight...
ONE MORE DAY OF RETRO PAY!!!
Los:cool:

fdx727pilot 08-22-2006 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 54743)
When I parked in the Democrat lot a short while ago, I noticed a couple of the Massah's hired hands walking up and down the rows of cars writing down License Tag numbers - - I assume they were looking for expired registrations and flat tires and such. That's exactly the type of behavior I would expect on the eve of a Company Proffer of a ratifiable TA.

Stand by for Jack's "Clean up the Democrat Lot" email in 5, 4, 3,.....

Obviously, you haven't had to search the entire lot, looking for a parking spot while passing old wrecks with several flat tires, and guys double and triple parked due to lack of spots. If Jack wants to clean up the lot, I'm with him on this one. Just because he's the SCP doesn't always make him wrong. Of course, an expanded lot would be good, too.

MD11Fr8Dog 08-22-2006 04:10 PM


Originally Posted by fdx727pilot (Post 54820)
Obviously, you haven't had to search the entire lot, looking for a parking spot while passing old wrecks with several flat tires, and guys double and triple parked due to lack of spots. If Jack wants to clean up the lot, I'm with him on this one. Just because he's the SCP doesn't always make him wrong. Of course, an expanded lot would be good, too.

What they ought to do is build a large multi-level lot where the o/b, late callout, 1 hr lots are located. Pay for it with the crew buses that will no longer be needed.

BTW - my car ended up on J.L.'s to be towed webpage last year - someone stole my '05 sticker! Cost me a day off and $7+ to get another sticker!

R1200RT 08-22-2006 05:18 PM


Originally Posted by CaptainMark (Post 54717)
ok....i heard a rumor that both sides left the table and 30 days cooling off is coming up....


Man you are messed up like Chocolate Cheese!

fecav8r 08-22-2006 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 54707)
True or not, good source or bad, it's exactly the kind of rumor the Company would like. The temptation is to "let up" knowing that a TA is just around the corner.



Don't waver. DO NOT BLINK.



When it's here, it's here, and not a nanosecond sooner.




Your actions as an individual MATTER!





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I agree. I have heard the same thing but this is not the time to blink. And it is not the time to send FO's back to the sim. You don't think there's some exposure if you do that? How about all the FO's get the landings and the Capt's go back to the sim?

RedeyeAV8r 08-22-2006 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by fecav8r (Post 54877)
I agree. I have heard the same thing but this is not the time to blink. And it is not the time to send FO's back to the sim. You don't think there's some exposure if you do that? How about all the FO's get the landings and the Capt's go back to the sim?

Because the Capt has the choice to Allow the FO to get a landing..............Not the other way around.

There will be exposure no matter what we do to try to prod negotiations along.


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