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fdx727pilot 08-30-2006 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightflyer (Post 56945)
I think what they mean by that is your annual increase for Years of Service.

Of course, after 15 years, you get nothing for that.

I saw that UPS only goes out to 12 years, as do most major pax carriers. One could look at 15 years as a benny for us. My college roomate at AA has long been maxed out (12 years.)

Pilot7576 08-30-2006 02:49 PM

fdx727...

UPS new ta goes out to 15 yrs as well...current 12 yr capts are redlined to 15 however. FO % at 15 at end of contract is 71% of left seat.

YMMV

Pilot7576

Overnitefr8 08-30-2006 03:19 PM

It depends upon what your maxing out at. If you max out at the same relative pay at 15 years that others are doing in 12 then the 15 year max out folks are falling behind in the last 3 years. Now if both have the same relative pay at 12 years and you keep getting higher pay rates in years 13, 14, and 15 then it would be better.

Freightpuppy 08-30-2006 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MAWK90 (Post 56957)
Excellent point and that is why I am in favor of our payscale going out to 20 yrs. Think about it, once you make $240,000 an increase in B-Fund means nothing to you. At that annual income, the only benefit would be more $$ in your take-home pay.

IMHO anyway

That's funny because some of our (UPS) guys were freaking about our payscale going from 12 to 15 years.

Maddog39 08-30-2006 06:41 PM

B Fund...
 
You want to put as much as you can into your B Fund. Those are company dollars. The 401K money is your money, taken out of your pay. You might have some matching, for example, FedEx matches 50 cents of the first $1000 for a whopping additional $500 each year.

767pilot 08-30-2006 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Freightpuppy (Post 57054)
That's funny because some of our (UPS) guys were freaking about our payscale going from 12 to 15 years.

as they well should. Why wait til 15 for what you should get at 12?

fdx727pilot 08-30-2006 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 767pilot (Post 57073)
as they well should. Why wait til 15 for what you should get at 12?

The question should be (as Overnitefr8 mentioned,) is the new 12 year pay a raise from the old 12 yr pay? If it is, good. Are the new 13-15 yr rates raises from the new 12 yr rate? If so, where's the complaint? If not, then you can *****.

Freightpuppy 08-30-2006 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 767pilot (Post 57073)
as they well should. Why wait til 15 for what you should get at 12?

I guess that's one way to look at it.

How about "why wait til 12 to get what you should at 5?"


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