freightretriever

Bingo. There was 137.85 reasons an hour to work for them. Beyond that, nothing comes to mind.

To Stay or Go

Hyperbole at its finest, or worst. UPS is what you make of it. It sucks the economy tanked, age 60 changed, and the 727/747/DC-8 fleets were retired so quickly and eliminating FE positions. Layoffs across the company; mechanics, drivers, management, and eventually pilots. At least we had a 2 year heads up the furloughs were coming.

I'm recommending this job when we hire again. UPS management is no different than any other large corporation's. Mgt has a fiduciary responsibilty to shareholders. We had 150 pilots collecting anywhere from 130k to 250k a year and not working. Furloughs were inevitable.

TipTip35

I will be the first to acknowledge that mgt has a fiduciary responsibility to the shareholders. They also have a responsibility to their employees to be ethical and fair. 180k/yr for 150 pilots comes to $27.7M/yr. A fair and ethical company that did not want the MOU savings would have said "we have 150 extra pilots and its costing us $27.7M/yr. With 2800 pilots we would like an average of $10k/yr. to offset this cost or we'll furlough". Your beloved company did not do that. They claimed they could furlough 300 pilots and keep the last ones out until 2015 and save themselves a whopping $200M+. Our out to prevent the furlough was to not only take paycuts but to give up multiple CONCESSIONARY items that we would never get back and that UPS would use to profit from for years. Thats how the mob and thugs operate. They catch you in a jam and then take advantage of you by extorting you for whatever they can get.

Barely 6 months from the first furlough they are announcing that they are stopping the furlough at 109 and saying that retirements alone will have everyone back by 2013. So they are on track to save $60M (185k x 109 x 3 yrs). Half of the $110M that was offered up in the MOU and 1/4th of what they claimed they were going to save by furloughing in the first place. That points to a management team that is either extremely incompetent or run by thugs.

So while I agree that we definitely had excess pilots for a time I entirely disagree that furlough was inevitable. The company could have gotten their savings and absolutely did not have to furlough anyone. This was about a lot more than reduced loads, aircraft retirement, and a bad economy and anyone who thinks otherwise has their head buried in the sand.

Freightpuppy

brownie....you crack me up!

Freightpuppy

And the health insurance....
And the two weeks off at a time....
And our union....
Just sayin'

Freightpuppy

They do irritate the p*** out of me sometimes with their never look outside the box attitude and such but I have to agree with you here.

Section Eight

You MUST be mgt. Lets talk about the 131 million left on the table by the morons you work for. Lets talk about a company making RECORD profits and telling the world they HAVE to furlough. Right.

109 pilots out is less than 20 million a year by their numbers. How long will it take them to realize they will NEVER see the savings that they raped from the IPA.

How much does a manager make again? And he manages what? And they need more for what reason, more pilots? GMAFB

I love the UPS shield you have for an avatar, should post my video of me ****ing on my uniform to put the fire out.

Fiduciary responsibility?, give me a break. Less than one penny per share to ruin 109 families. What a joke.

That is all.........

FR8TFLYER

Are you management? These people will lie at any opportunity: crew scheduling is one that comes to mind! They honor the contract when convenient, no integrity. The furlough is a whole different ball-game. It could have been avoided.

aflouisville

I am retired. Worked since beginning as FQS. Loved the job. Not for everyone. Came from Ryan.

FXDX

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