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Flaps50 02-06-2011 06:30 AM

FDX - Dropping a month's Trips?
 
Has anyone taken a whole month off before without vacation and went in the hole for all the insurance fees and the lot? Just wondering if that is an issue if you work the next month. Do you just carry a negative balance and then it repays or do you get a nasty gram from mgt?

Does anyone care I guess is the question...

Thanks,

LuckyNo70 02-06-2011 06:49 AM

Not sure it matters, I was told you go in the hole and they take it back the next month. After a few months it may be an issue. If you are going to do mil leave though, make sure it reflects in the system, just in case something happens, just my opinion.

KnightFlyer 02-06-2011 12:02 PM

I did it once. Back then I got an email from payroll letting me know my pay would be around 0. They didn't pay some of my deductions for LTD, dues (from the previous month), etc. so I had to write a couple checks to the payees.

Fresh Hot Pizza 02-06-2011 05:51 PM

Someone just won the lottery....

I've fantasized about that for years, as we all have. First thing I would do was call my attorney. Then I'd disappear for a while. As to Fedex? I'd drop all my trips for the month. If I couldn't drop the trips...I'd simply call in rich.


"Hi, my name's Tom, and I'm not going to make my trip tomorrow night. I won the lottery, so I'm officially calling in rich!"

Heh heh!

Jetjok 02-06-2011 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by Fresh Hot Pizza (Post 943230)
Someone just won the lottery....

I've fantasized about that for years, as we all have. First thing I would do was call my attorney. Then I'd disappear for a while. As to Fedex? I'd drop all my trips for the month. If I couldn't drop the trips...I'd simply call in rich.


"Hi, my name's Tom, and I'm not going to make my trip tomorrow night. I won the lottery, so I'm officially calling in rich!"

Heh heh!

I hate to say it, but I think a lot of us here have also fantasized about your disappearing for a while.

Heh heh!

JJ

Flaps50 02-07-2011 04:45 AM

Thanks guys! I think this is one of the great benefits to flying here as long as they are fat enough on reserves to let you drop. Most of my buds at other airlines don't have the flexibility that we do when it comes to adjusting our schedules most months. Some of them couldn't even get yesterday off to watch the Packers make history again; what a shame!!

Busboy 02-07-2011 05:02 AM


Originally Posted by Flaps50 (Post 943367)
Thanks guys! I think this is one of the great benefits to flying here as long as they are fat enough on reserves to let you drop. Most of my buds at other airlines don't have the flexibility that we do when it comes to adjusting our schedules most months. Some of them couldn't even get yesterday off to watch the Packers make history again; what a shame!!

Yes, I think it was so nice of FDX to let everyone off that wanted to see the game.:rolleyes:

Flaps50 02-07-2011 05:06 AM


Originally Posted by Busboy (Post 943370)
Yes, I think it was so nice of FDX to let everyone off that wanted to see the game.:rolleyes:

Dude, just a Packer fan making a joke... sorry.:rolleyes:

HoursHore 02-07-2011 05:08 AM

Except for the junior reserve who had to fly your trip.

Although the game is so late now that you can probably catch some of it if you launch Sunday afternoon even if your going to the west coast.

Iceback 02-07-2011 05:15 AM

Just a heads up... Some companies (like the one I'm at) have a minimum hr/mth clause in their LTD insurance that you must fly in the preceding months to be eligible for a claim (ours is 70). You may want to fire an email off to your R&I guys to make sure you don't have the same sort of limitation. I wasn't aware ours existed until one of our pilots had gone on disability and the 3rd party insurance company denied his claim because he had dropped his line down to 60 hours 5 months prior. I'm sure yours is probably much better, and probably not 3rd party, but you wouldn't want to inadvertanty expose yourself. (unless you're into that sort of thing ;) )
Cheers

Busboy 02-07-2011 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by Flaps50 (Post 943371)
Dude, just a Packer fan making a joke... sorry.:rolleyes:

No need to apologize for your cheesy joke. :)

It was a crappy game anyway. There weren't any cheerleaders.

Flaps50 02-07-2011 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by Busboy (Post 943399)
No need to apologize for your cheesy joke. :)

It was a crappy game anyway. There weren't any cheerleaders.

Apologize for the Packers! NEVVVVVVVVER!!!!!!!!!!:D

MaydayMark 02-07-2011 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by Flaps50 (Post 943367)
Thanks guys! I think this is one of the great benefits to flying here as long as they are fat enough on reserves to let you drop. Most of my buds at other airlines don't have the flexibility that we do when it comes to adjusting our schedules most months. Some of them couldn't even get yesterday off to watch the Packers make history again; what a shame!!


Flaps,

I'm not sure what you are talking about? Despite being "fat" as you call it and despite the company's overmanning claims (and the resulting taking it up the 4.a.2.b), I haven't been able to move or drop an R day in over 3 years. It just doesn't make sense!*?:eek:

golfandfly 02-07-2011 10:02 AM


Originally Posted by MaydayMark (Post 943454)
Flaps,

I'm not sure what you are talking about? Despite being "fat" as you call it and despite the company's overmanning claims (and the resulting taking it up the 4.a.2.b), I haven't been able to move or drop an R day in over 3 years. It just doesn't make sense!*?:eek:

Mark, I hear you! It really makes no sense that you can drop a trip at will but you can't ever move/drop an R day. I understand peak season, but trying to move an R day from a Tuesday to Wednesday in the middle of February should be possible. It's ridiculous that there is absolutely no way to adjust your schedule.

I guess this is another worthless contract clause:

"Moving an R-day(s)
A pilot shall have the ability to submit to move an R-day(s) within a bid period and that submission shall not be unreasonably denied."

I guess any request is unreasonable....

kronan 02-07-2011 01:31 PM

golfandfly, if you're trying to create a stand-alone R day, that will never be approved.
I have had some success bugging the ACP to help me adjust the schedule.

While I have no insider knowledge of the system, sometimes it seems as if the model CRS uses to consider R day moves\drops is based on the old R day manning model versus the new and improved leaner staffing.
In many cases, seems like the model is telling CRS *** were you thinking when you only have X reservists to cover Y trips....even though that's the way the company elected to build it

golfandfly 02-07-2011 02:00 PM

Kronan,

I'm really just talking about moving any R day. Maybe moving one from the end of the block to the front, or vice versa. Nothing that creates a single day, that doesn't even get to CRS..

My guess is that if almost all R days are short manned (probably the manning model that you spoke of). Therefore you can't move anything, because it would cause a greater shortage on the day that you want to change even though the day you move it to also has a shortage... Sounds ridiculous???

I agree that the only way to move anything is to call your ACP. I haven't done this and probably won't unless it is absolutely essential to have a certain day off. It really shouldn't be this hard. Unreasonably denied? It's hard to quantify that....


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