Originally Posted by 2cylinderdriver (Post 945005)

I got news for you, commuting protections are not gonna get better, wake up and smell the coffee. Congress HAS mandated that commuting be addressed in form a a law. I suggest you send those concerns to Washington, through your Congressman, before you have anyone waste their breath or time trying to improve staging rules that will probably get overridden by some stupid law.

Get eductated and act everyone, that law passed due to the Buffalo crash is not even close to being done with implementing wide ranging changes.

Including, BTW, the good part, a sweeping change to FAR's, which is certainly a part of this TA decision process. I read the Fedex comments on the rules, if you think we would see any movement on double digit pay raises, lump payments that can buy a car or anything else in the big sections done before this storm has passed, we are smoking some stuff the dude might like!

Originally Posted by JohnnyViper (Post 944994)

So what would make everyone happy and vote yes? 20%? 25%? I'm curious what you're trigger would be.

I'm not happy about 3% either, btw, but after watching the video of SS, the reasons they decided to go with this TA seem sound, or at least logical given what the company tells them. Do you all think that the guys on the NC and MEC are so much dumber than everyone on this message board? Sure, the NC could have been hard a$$es and drug this thing out for the next 3 years. Is that what would have made you happy? Burn the place down? Wait, don't answer that.

Is the company being cheap? Of course they're being cheap, it's what they do to employees now at every corporation. But how much more do you think they would have given up? And how long would it have taken to get another 2 or 3%? Do you guys know, because I don't.

I don't like to use the "other airlines" analogy, but reality is reality. I think of all my buddies at other airlines right now, and all the garbage they are going through, and I know most of them would murder me, remove my index finger for the bio-metric check in, and wear my face as a mask in the AOC to have the deal we have right now. And I know you ol' boys from back in the 80s and 90s had it whipped into you that you aren't "the other guys" so you don't deserve what they have. So you think we shouldn't use that comparison. That is foolish. You have to look at what else is going on in the industry and the economy.

I would love to have seen a double digit raise and some other little goodies in there, but it is what it is. All that being said, I still haven't made up my mind yet.

I hope some of you fellas that are so PO'd right now will come out publicly and declare your intentions to get involved with the NC or become union officials in other ways so you can tell them how to do it right.

By the way, inflation in 2010 was just under 2%.

I await the firing squad. :)

Originally Posted by Malter (Post 945010)

I don't think you understand my point. Commuting protection/discipline is a company thing. Period. If you talk to your other airline buds, you'll find that they are far better protected from disciplinary action should they not make it to work....

Originally Posted by Auger In (Post 944873)

The company has admitted that last peak was the LARGEST in FedEx history. That means it was the most LUCRATIVE in FedEx history. On top of that, the company made millions of dollars off our backs with that 4a2b thievery. And all they will offer is an anemic 3% pay increase and a few pennies to our per diem rate after they took tens of thousands of dollars from most of us last year? ... The increases in this TA appear to be marginal at best. Unacceptable.

Originally Posted by 2005 Blues (Post 944893)

No increase in training pay. You get paid $2000 (before taxes) every month whether you need it or not.

Originally Posted by Dahlysia (Post 944921)

Deadheading on trains is a big NO for me. And then also deadheading on boats, hydrofoils, etc.... Common, what is going on????

Originally Posted by FDXLAG (Post 945014)

How about perpetual 3% raises every march 1st until a new TA is negotiated. We are solving all of the companies problems for a 3% raise that we should have gotten last Oct and the promise of a 3% raise next March. No thanks.

Originally Posted by FDXLAG (Post 944875)

Nah we learned our lesson, it will pass with 21% of the membership voting yes, 13% voting no, and 66% wondering what is 1% of $168K.

Originally Posted by renman95 (Post 945026)

Sadly, you may be right. Most of the "no's" will come from this forum. The rest of the (sheeple) will be listening to their "herder."