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Old 09-11-2006, 11:30 AM
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Well tell me, what in this TA stands out that WE as a group got a good/great deal?







anyone?









anyone?

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9% pay raise-- Later pay raises through other changes(assumes 1000 CH/yr)
Bump in rec tng pay +.6% B Fund +1.0%
TAFB rig Change 3.75/1 +6.7% Int Overide +1.2%
Total raise after all "kicks" in about a year No Int Flying +8.3%
All Int Flying +9.4%
Add the 9% + 3%(after Year1) + 8.3% = 20.3%
+9.4 = 21.4%
OKAY before It gets pointed out I know hubturn in MEM will not see the rig change bump.

Priority MU now 125%

Better disruption pay kick-in

SMALL Per diem increase

Bid for recurrent tng slots

Min layover 10:15

ANCHOR ZONE for scdeduling Read it it's complicated but BETTER than today!!

Critical Duty period block-in by 1000 LBT for out-n-back

Blended duty requirement--GOOD

Op receive less 11hrs crew rest after critical duty then next rest is 12

Sick trips in open time available for p/u between 0700-1000 Can now see all open trips--no blackout

Medical certs $275/yr instead of $200. This effects most Captains not FOs

Bid line adjust window now 48 hrs Other things are better during this period.

Can now PDO bump a reserve crewmember assighned a trip

New reserve periods A+ and B+ We'll put this in the neutral to negative column.

Union shop Positive----Former non-members exempt--BIG Negative

Much better medical insurance than current Jan 08

Better retirement medical benefits including some sort of medical savings account--read the TA for details

ALOT of enhancements to scheduling parameters. I don't understand how much they will change things but it will be for the BETTER
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Old 09-11-2006, 11:31 AM
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anyone?
Agency Shop!!!
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Old 09-11-2006, 11:48 AM
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Agency Shop!!!
A NO cost item to FDX I might add!
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Old 09-11-2006, 11:53 AM
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A NO cost item to FDX I might add!
What value does ALPA put on it?? Don't believe for a second there was not a price to pay.
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Old 09-11-2006, 11:57 AM
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What value does ALPA put on it?? Don't believe for a second there was a price to pay.
George, my point was simply that Agency Shop does not cost the Company 1 penny!

Obviously ALPA wanted it and possibly we got it at the cost of something else.(Was it worth it? good , bad it depends on your opinion). But don't try twist it. It cost the company ZERO!!!
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Old 09-11-2006, 12:09 PM
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we wanted agency shop!!!! we got it and now it's a problem?...so what if it costs the company nothing..we wanted it and got it...why r we bithchin about it?
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Old 09-11-2006, 12:18 PM
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we wanted agency shop!!!! we got it and now it's a problem?...so what if it costs the company nothing..we wanted it and got it...why r we bithchin about it?
No *****in at all on this item. I think it is a good thing for the future, except it didn't cover the 150 folks it need to.

The Point was it Cost the Company nothing. Don't read into it
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Old 09-11-2006, 12:52 PM
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No *****in at all on this item. I think it is a good thing for the future, except it didn't cover the 150 folks it need to.

The Point was it Cost the Company nothing. Don't read into it
I think the point is; What did it cost US to get it, and was it worth it?

I don't think it was free. Did it cost MPPD, 6.4CH for a hubturn, Real RETRO pay... or maybe one of the other things we didn't get.
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I think the point is; What did it cost US to get it, and was it worth it? I don't think it was free. Did it cost MPPD, 6.4CH for a hubturn, Real RETRO pay... or maybe one of the other things we didn't get.
Your Right...for Us I am sure it wasn't free.
We got it in lieu of something else. Whether it is worth it or not is certainly in the eyes of the beholder. It is an important issue IMHO but I can't wait to attend a road show.

My point (before it got twisted by a few folks) was it was something we got........that cost the Company absolutely Nothing thats zero,
unlike a Pay raise or B-plan bump from DOS or Real Retro or retiree heathcare for everyone, not just the folks retiring under this contract. That costs the Company something.
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Originally Posted by RedeyeAV8r View Post
George, my point was simply that Agency Shop does not cost the Company 1 penny!

Obviously ALPA wanted it and possibly we got it at the cost of something else.(Was it worth it? good , bad it depends on your opinion). But don't try twist it. It cost the company ZERO!!!
Agreed, it cost the company zero, our cost is unknown.
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