FedEx Deviating from D/H
05-30-2011, 05:03 PM
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FedEx Deviating from D/H
I understand the importance of refundable tickets on the front and back end.
Once you deviate, do you own the trip (i.e., cannot trade for open time trip)?
Any other words of wisdom for a first-time deviant?
Once you deviate, do you own the trip (i.e., cannot trade for open time trip)?
Any other words of wisdom for a first-time deviant?
05-30-2011, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by CloudSailor
I understand the importance of refundable tickets on the front and back end.
Once you deviate, do you own the trip (i.e., cannot trade for open time trip)?
Any other words of wisdom for a first-time deviant?
Once you deviate, do you own the trip (i.e., cannot trade for open time trip)?
Any other words of wisdom for a first-time deviant?
Intl, once you've deviated, it's yours.
CBA 8.C.1.b. Trip Trade Restrictions After Notification (International Deadheads)
After a pilot provides notification of his deviation from a scheduled international deadhead, he may not trade, drop or authorize a personal bump on the international trip containing the deadhead, unless authorized by CRS, or his ACP. For purposes of this paragraph, an international deadhead shall be a deadhead that originates or terminates in a location outside the contiguous 48 United States, Canada or Mexico.
Intent: This is necessary because, when the pilot notifies the Company of his intention to deviate, the Company cancels the original deadhead reservation in order not to be double charged. Many carriers are requiring cancellation at least 48 hours prior to departure in order to ensure proper credit.
As far as words of wisdom...When I'm short of dev bank money(always, it seems), I will occasionally purchase a non-refundable ticket on the front end, if I'm sure I'm going to fly the trip(and it's not an xtra-pairing). I never buy a NON-refundable for the tail end due to revisions, delays, etc.
Don't forget to check in. Initial check-in, 48hrs-4hrs prior to showtime of scheduled D/H. Final check-in, at least 8 hrs in N. America and 12hrs outside of N. America prior to first flight's showtime. I suggest doing your final check in as soon as you get in the terminal. Otherwise, you will forget eventually.
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05-30-2011, 05:29 PM
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As a career deviator I usually....
Domestic ~ Deviate right away as there is no restriction to drop or trade the trip.
Internationally ~ I usually wait until the last minute (60-70 hrs before DH) to deviate. Once you deviate on an international trip you are stuck with it, no drop or trade allowed.
Domestic ~ Deviate right away as there is no restriction to drop or trade the trip.
Internationally ~ I usually wait until the last minute (60-70 hrs before DH) to deviate. Once you deviate on an international trip you are stuck with it, no drop or trade allowed.
05-30-2011, 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by CloudSailor
Thanks guys.
As Busboy's CBA reference states, for the purposes of D/H, Canada and Mexico, are domestic correct?
As Busboy's CBA reference states, for the purposes of D/H, Canada and Mexico, are domestic correct?
05-31-2011, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Busboy
Domestic, you can still swap, trade, etc.
Intl, once you've deviated, it's yours.
CBA 8.C.1.b. Trip Trade Restrictions After Notification (International Deadheads)
After a pilot provides notification of his deviation from a scheduled international deadhead, he may not trade, drop or authorize a personal bump on the international trip containing the deadhead, unless authorized by CRS, or his ACP. For purposes of this paragraph, an international deadhead shall be a deadhead that originates or terminates in a location outside the contiguous 48 United States, Canada or Mexico.
Intent: This is necessary because, when the pilot notifies the Company of his intention to deviate, the Company cancels the original deadhead reservation in order not to be double charged. Many carriers are requiring cancellation at least 48 hours prior to departure in order to ensure proper credit.
As far as words of wisdom...When I'm short of dev bank money(always, it seems), I will occasionally purchase a non-refundable ticket on the front end, if I'm sure I'm going to fly the trip(and it's not an xtra-pairing). I never buy a refundable for the tail end due to revisions, delays, etc.
Don't forget to check in. Initial check-in, 48hrs-4hrs prior to showtime of scheduled D/H. Final check-in, at least 8 hrs in N. America and 12hrs outside of N. America prior to first flight's showtime. I suggest doing your final check in as soon as you get in the terminal. Otherwise, you will forget eventually.
Intl, once you've deviated, it's yours.
CBA 8.C.1.b. Trip Trade Restrictions After Notification (International Deadheads)
After a pilot provides notification of his deviation from a scheduled international deadhead, he may not trade, drop or authorize a personal bump on the international trip containing the deadhead, unless authorized by CRS, or his ACP. For purposes of this paragraph, an international deadhead shall be a deadhead that originates or terminates in a location outside the contiguous 48 United States, Canada or Mexico.
Intent: This is necessary because, when the pilot notifies the Company of his intention to deviate, the Company cancels the original deadhead reservation in order not to be double charged. Many carriers are requiring cancellation at least 48 hours prior to departure in order to ensure proper credit.
As far as words of wisdom...When I'm short of dev bank money(always, it seems), I will occasionally purchase a non-refundable ticket on the front end, if I'm sure I'm going to fly the trip(and it's not an xtra-pairing). I never buy a refundable for the tail end due to revisions, delays, etc.
Don't forget to check in. Initial check-in, 48hrs-4hrs prior to showtime of scheduled D/H. Final check-in, at least 8 hrs in N. America and 12hrs outside of N. America prior to first flight's showtime. I suggest doing your final check in as soon as you get in the terminal. Otherwise, you will forget eventually.
05-31-2011, 08:09 AM
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On the non refundable angle; when short on funds I will occasionally buy round trip tickets. It is a risk reward scenario but occasionally you can book a round trip for the same price as a one way accepted fare. Particularly if you start the round trip on your Friday trip home. If your trip gets revised, call the airline, they may let you change the date on the segment for a fee (that you will have to eat).
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05-31-2011, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
On the non refundable angle; when short on funds I will occasionally buy round trip tickets. It is a risk reward scenario but occasionally you can book a round trip for the same price as a one way accepted fare. Particularly if you start the round trip on your Friday trip home. If your trip gets revised, call the airline, they may let you change the date on the segment for a fee (that you will have to eat).
I've done it.
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