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FR8TFLYER 07-31-2011 08:20 PM

Yeah, the place sucks. Worst management/labor relationship I have ever seen. Don't ever trust them, biggest bunch of liars I have ever encountered.

CactusCrew 07-31-2011 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by Flying Dog (Post 1031961)
I usually get "So wouldn't you rather work for an airline?"


My typical retort ... why would I want to take a pay cut to deal with people ?


;)

TheReelDeel33 08-01-2011 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by FDXLAG (Post 1031692)
Yes, No

2 to 3 legs a night domestic on average, 12 to 14 nights a month, usually in blocks of 4 or 5 days in a row.

Ok, So yes the pilots themselves can fly for free on a jumpseat, but no they cannot bring their families?

I have a few friends who are able to fly anywhere for free because they have a parent who works for an airline. If cargo companies aren't the same way that is a shame, I feel like that would be one of the major benefits for being a pilot

Lucky7 08-01-2011 07:06 AM

Not to sound defensive but your friends get to fly for free they also have the pleasure of getting bumped and left for hours or overnight waiting for that free ride. Not too many open seats lately from my experience.

Nitefrater 08-01-2011 08:13 AM


Originally Posted by TheReelDeel33 (Post 1032106)
Ok, So yes the pilots themselves can fly for free on a jumpseat, but no they cannot bring their families?

I have a few friends who are able to fly anywhere for free because they have a parent who works for an airline. If cargo companies aren't the same way that is a shame, I feel like that would be one of the major benefits for being a pilot

The FARs have limits on who can be carried on aircraft without flight attendants (see 121.583). These limits don't include wives, kids, grandparents, or the family dog. We're not set up to handle them.

You should probably focus on becoming a pilot at a pax carrier.

PurpleTail 08-01-2011 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by TheReelDeel33 (Post 1032106)
Ok, So yes the pilots themselves can fly for free on a jumpseat, but no they cannot bring their families?

I have a few friends who are able to fly anywhere for free because they have a parent who works for an airline. If cargo companies aren't the same way that is a shame, I feel like that would be one of the major benefits for being a pilot

Pre 9/11 all FedEx employees had access to the company jumpseats, it was a big "selling" tool benefit to get people to throw boxes at 2am. Post 9/11 the jumpseat is restricted to to only flight personnel (ie. pilots, mechanics, dispatchers).

As far as flying family around for free, that has never been a perk for cargo haulers. Plus, as previously stated, flying standby these days is a total crap shoot at best. 2 people flying together...possible, a family of 4 trying to fly standby...not a chance.

744driver 08-01-2011 10:20 AM


Originally Posted by TheReelDeel33 (Post 1032106)

I have a few friends who are able to fly anywhere for free because they have a parent who works for an airline. If cargo companies aren't the same way that is a shame, I feel like that would be one of the major benefits for being a pilot

You (or your family) can fly for free or you can work for an all-cargo airline that actually makes money...like FDX and UPS do.

And no matter what the UPS guys here say, it is a matter of perspective...lots of guys would give their you-know-what to work there.:p

Sorry for being harsh, but basing your career decision based on a benefit that is ifffffy at best may not be a sound decision.

Sure ZED tickets and such are benefits, but why not travel on a ticket with your family and an actual seat assignment. There are plenty of good deals out there these days. Or after just a short time at one of the box-haulers, you'll have plenty of miles to use/share for (positive space) tickets.

The Walrus 08-01-2011 01:58 PM


Originally Posted by 744driver (Post 1032202)

Sorry for being harsh, but basing your career decision based on a benefit that is ifffffy at best may not be a sound decision.

Being able to spell benefit might help also.

744driver 08-01-2011 02:44 PM

:rolleyes:

Night_Hawk 08-01-2011 03:46 PM


Originally Posted by TheReelDeel33 (Post 1032106)
Ok, S
I have a few friends who are able to fly anywhere for free because they have a parent who works for an airline. If cargo companies aren't the same way that is a shame, I feel like that would be one of the major benefits for being a pilot

If you are looking for a career where you can travel cheap. I would suggest working for the hotels. 1) You will spend more on them (hotels) than airline tickets, 2) you will have more control over where and when you go somewhere.


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