FDX: your first 10 yrs vs. family
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Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2009
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Been here a long time......either live in domicile or you will work hard and live a lot less quality of life, except for the few years you are senior in your seat before moving along to another, redoing the same cycle.
your choice your life.
your choice your life.
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Position: MD11 FO
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Think long and hard before you move to Memphis. The place can really suck for a lot of families (remember they are there all the time). I never did any night flying prior to getting here, cannot sleep on command (great skill for this job) and still find the job generally great.
It helps a lot if you don't live month to month. Generally speaking you can drop part of your schedule if so desired (not recently in some seats but I suspect it'll go back that way) - if you can drop the lousy trips and trade for ones that work you can really make it enjoyable. Unless you plan on living in domicile get off reserve as much as possible. Have the ability to be flexible - if you can swap your trip footprints for other footprints you can really get some good trips - even as a very junior guy. Hopefully the pay is good enough after first year (first year will probably suck ) that you don't live month to month. There are trips and opportunities here that don't exist and probably won't ever exist at other airlines. With few exceptions, you can really make it work and still have a very enjoyable family life - diet, rest, exercise.
It helps a lot if you don't live month to month. Generally speaking you can drop part of your schedule if so desired (not recently in some seats but I suspect it'll go back that way) - if you can drop the lousy trips and trade for ones that work you can really make it enjoyable. Unless you plan on living in domicile get off reserve as much as possible. Have the ability to be flexible - if you can swap your trip footprints for other footprints you can really get some good trips - even as a very junior guy. Hopefully the pay is good enough after first year (first year will probably suck ) that you don't live month to month. There are trips and opportunities here that don't exist and probably won't ever exist at other airlines. With few exceptions, you can really make it work and still have a very enjoyable family life - diet, rest, exercise.
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I distilled your post and will hopefully give you some information to help.
Move to MEM. The most junior family friendly lines are B reserve. That's noon to midnight. B reserve covers day flying. Commuters typically bid night hub turn, or better, flying. FedEx has 60%+ commuters.
Why do commuters do that? So they can work fewer days away from home. Reserve pays 4:30 to 4:45 hrs/ day vs. at least 6:00 hrs/day for hub turns or other trips. More senior commuters bid lines with airline tickets to/from the outstations. That reduces the days away from home for many commuters. In domicile pilots trying to maximize pay also prefer trips. We have lots of those guys. But many are retiring. No per diem on reserve. You may laugh but I've heard some add up and seriously brag about their per diem.
B reserve is used less often so you will actually be at home more. You will be on day trips when you fly, generally. You can get assigned a trip, sometimes a week long, that starts in the B reserve window that is almost all night flying. That won't happen to you every week.
The promise of international flying is working the fewest days, if you hold can hold a decent international line. The MD11 has a lot of domestic lines, the worst of which go junior. The 777 is even more senior. International trips often pay much more than 6 hrs/day.
You can be a widebody FO on B reserve while much more senior bubbas are hanging out on the 727 and 757.
Move to MEM. The most junior family friendly lines are B reserve. That's noon to midnight. B reserve covers day flying. Commuters typically bid night hub turn, or better, flying. FedEx has 60%+ commuters.
Why do commuters do that? So they can work fewer days away from home. Reserve pays 4:30 to 4:45 hrs/ day vs. at least 6:00 hrs/day for hub turns or other trips. More senior commuters bid lines with airline tickets to/from the outstations. That reduces the days away from home for many commuters. In domicile pilots trying to maximize pay also prefer trips. We have lots of those guys. But many are retiring. No per diem on reserve. You may laugh but I've heard some add up and seriously brag about their per diem.
B reserve is used less often so you will actually be at home more. You will be on day trips when you fly, generally. You can get assigned a trip, sometimes a week long, that starts in the B reserve window that is almost all night flying. That won't happen to you every week.
The promise of international flying is working the fewest days, if you hold can hold a decent international line. The MD11 has a lot of domestic lines, the worst of which go junior. The 777 is even more senior. International trips often pay much more than 6 hrs/day.
You can be a widebody FO on B reserve while much more senior bubbas are hanging out on the 727 and 757.
Best advice on this board. I've been here 10 years and am in the right seat of a wide body. I commute because we want to live closer to family, but if I didn't I'd be doing this very thing. Living in domicile and sitting reserve in your own home is how you "skin the cat" here at FedEx. Best of luck!
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