Nepotism at UPS
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Interesting comment. How bad is it? I know money isn't everything (the $$ appears good at brown).. would anyone quit this place over lack of progress/future? Possibly take a pay-cut at a "lesser" outfit with brighter future?
I know pilots talk big...but we are mostly chicken $h5ts deep down.
I know pilots talk big...but we are mostly chicken $h5ts deep down.
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If you don't mind being moved to Alaska and furloughed and possibly burning to death in an airplane due to a cargo fire cause UPS won't implement any real safety measures then throw your name in the hat again when they start hiring in 5 years. Oh, and NURPs (non union replacement pilot) being hired while you are furloughed. If you don't know about this issue I suggest you do some more homework.
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A lot of hot air. The truth is in the details, how many voluntarily quit UPS to go anywhere else. I know it has happened, but not much. When the quitting gets into serious numbers then there will be a response.
Until then, that's the answer, all the rest is whining and BS.
Until then, that's the answer, all the rest is whining and BS.
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There's an alternative point of view of UPS.
UPS pilot pay and retirement are outstanding, our equipment and maintenance (minus smoke protection in case of fire) is top notch, and our union and pilot group are the most cohesive in the industry.
Schedules are great, good, or bad depending on your seniority. Vacations knock out three to five weeks of flying every second or third month.
The negativity is in the recent furlough, and the subsequent hiring of supervisor (non union) pilots. Line pilots are let go, while supervisor pilots are added. It's a HUGE deal to the IPA pilot group and rightly so.
Anchorage is the junior domicile, take it or leave it as a future new hire. Your pay will be $140,000 a year, however, to endure F Street, Humpy's, and the late nights at Darwin's while on reserve. That's second year pay come 2012.
If UPS was such a miserable place to work, guys would be quitting for a better work environment. But they're not. Even the old guys are staying until 65, and many of them are commuting to Anchorage.
Management is not loved by the IPA, and the reverse is also true. But that doesn't make for a miserable job, as others on this board are stating.
Much is in your attitude, just as it is in life...
UPS pilot pay and retirement are outstanding, our equipment and maintenance (minus smoke protection in case of fire) is top notch, and our union and pilot group are the most cohesive in the industry.
Schedules are great, good, or bad depending on your seniority. Vacations knock out three to five weeks of flying every second or third month.
The negativity is in the recent furlough, and the subsequent hiring of supervisor (non union) pilots. Line pilots are let go, while supervisor pilots are added. It's a HUGE deal to the IPA pilot group and rightly so.
Anchorage is the junior domicile, take it or leave it as a future new hire. Your pay will be $140,000 a year, however, to endure F Street, Humpy's, and the late nights at Darwin's while on reserve. That's second year pay come 2012.
If UPS was such a miserable place to work, guys would be quitting for a better work environment. But they're not. Even the old guys are staying until 65, and many of them are commuting to Anchorage.
Management is not loved by the IPA, and the reverse is also true. But that doesn't make for a miserable job, as others on this board are stating.
Much is in your attitude, just as it is in life...
Last edited by Freighter Captain; 10-26-2011 at 03:57 PM.
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