Fdx Back End Deviation Question
 

On a recent trip, I took the scheduled deadhead on the front end. Accepted fare $412, Actual fare $625. Back end I decided to deviate: Accepted fare $440, my deviation $418. Question from a non commuter who hasn't dealt with this scenario before, Do I owe the company $191 like my expense report is saying? I assumed that I was $22 under for my leg I deviated on and that's that. Or does it work taking the total Accepted fares minus total actual fares to arrive at the difference? Little help?

Make sure you are putting the front end expense submission as a scheduled and not a deviation expense. If that's not the problem, you may need to input a discrepancy for the front end expense and get the approved amount changed to match the actual fare.

Bottom line, you should not owe any $$ for your situation.

No, you don't owe them anything. Make sure that you select "yes" on the expense report as $418 will be taxable income. Just one more thing that needs to be fixed in the next contract.

Cheers,
fbh

No it isn't. Unless the expense was to or from his home to or from MEM (or other base if not MEM based).

This was driven by the IRS, not the Company. How are you planning on fixing that in a contract with the Company?

Just asking.

He lives in domicile. It does not apply to him

I ate some bad Mexican food and had a back end deviation.

I didn't think I owed anything to the company either; however i see at the bottom of the Fox report saying amount owed to company $191 and it makes me nervous. Just wondering if I should submit it that way, or get an approval from a higher up, or include a comment/clarification. Btw, i live in MEM, just deviated to get home sooner.

Click on Discrepancy for the Front end DH. They need to adjust the fare of your scheduled DH. You should owe nothing.

;) :p :rolleyes: That made diet coke come out my nose!!!

Sorry Brad. I was thinking about something and typing about something else. I was refering to the whole actual vs acccepted fare thing while deviating.
You guys are right, he lives in domicile and 8.C.5.b doesn't apply to him.
cheers,
fbh

Did you just get back from the trip?

I've had this happen recently with revisions that dropped my bank by about $2K. I deviated on the back end, got home early and checked my expense report only to find myself in the hole by 2 large. Give the system a couple of days to catch up and figure everything out. I did nothing and a few days after the trip ended everything was sorted out.

You do not owe the company any money. Anything on a DH that you took as scheduled is a wash. Your bank is for the back end DH - as long as you stay below that you are good to go.

Update the "accepted" fare
 

The solution is two fold. First, our weak contract allows the company to determine the "accepted" fare and not be held accountable unless the pilot catches them playing fast with the money.

To rectify the situation do this: At the top of the expense report, there is a listing of the scheduled flights and "accepted" fares. In that section, there is a way to update the "accepted" fare to the REAL fare. Do that and your bank is increased to reflect the REAL fare instead of the fairy tale (I mean "accepted") fare.

Once done, your total monthly bank will also increase and the ticket on the back end will be covered as you spent less than what the company's fairy tale (rats..... I mean "accepted" again...) fare was listed as.

Easy to do, but not advertised very well. I've done it every time the fairy tale (there I go again....) fare is less than the actual fare, even if I don't need the extra bank money.

Too bad that we accept these junk contracts that give all of our leverage away in order to allow the company to open a new domicile anywhere west of the Ural Mountains. For those domestic flyers that have no intention of bidding international, you are still affected when you allow the holes to remain in the contract.

Perm11FO - "To rectify the situation do this: At the top of the expense report, there is a listing of the scheduled flights and "accepted" fares. In that section, there is a way to update the "accepted" fare to the REAL fare. "

Perm11FO, could you be a little bit more specific about where this is on the expense report, and what page it is on? I've looked and found nothing like a listing of scheduled and accepted fares at the top of any of the expense report pages.

I've done this before and have been denied each time.

I think it only works if you fly the scheduled.

I think Perm11FO is referring to the "Discr" hyperlink on the left of each deadhead under the Travel Bank section of the Travel Related Expense Report for each month. But, I agree with FDXLAG.

You can only change a fare to a higher amount if you actually fly the deadhead as scheduled, or if the fare listed is lower than the accepted fare as published in the bidpack or on the pairing.

I've had zero success getting them to change the accepted fare to a higher actual ticketed fare amount if I have deviated on the deadhead.

Perm11FO, have you had a different experience? Have they changed an accepted fare to a higher actual ticketed amount, when you have deviated?