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Old 11-15-2011, 04:35 PM   #11  
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Send the messages...one minute of your time.
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Old 11-16-2011, 05:26 AM   #12  
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As a passenger pilot with friends at cargo carriers, I sent my show of support for all of you as well. One minute of your time indeed.
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Are you kidding? I'm guessing you haven't read any of the emails the that have come from FDX ALPA in a long time?

Check your inbox, they're there.
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Old 11-16-2011, 08:59 AM   #14  
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Are you kidding? I'm guessing you haven't read any of the emails the that have come from FDX ALPA in a long time?

Check your inbox, they're there.


I don't think he's a FDXer. Probably not in his inbox.
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From the outside looking in it seems there isn't a cohesive viewpoint in the cargo community about whether a cutout is a good thing or bad. Is fdx alpa addressing this and it's not getting pushed to the forum, misinformation, or just unknown?

From a hopeful someday fdx commuter, it seems like this decision could have a major impact on a commuter lifestyle.
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My concern is a possible negative effect on week on/week off schedules and on the commuters' lifestyle, to name two. Your thoughts?
Should your concern be the schedule/ lifestyle or the safe operation?
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Yes, and therein lies the paradox. We've (airline pilots) been pushing for better work rules, especially those concerning duty time and rest between flights, since the first jet aircraft were delivered to Pan Am, TWA, Eastern, etc, etc, and now that we're on the verge of something positive actually happening, there are those in this profession, who still don't see "el picture grande." No doubt, the changes could very likely effect our quality of life somewhat, but the tradeoff would hopefully be that we'd operate, day in and day out, in a much safer mode, because we've been allowed to get adequate rest. Personally I feel it's a good tradeoff. At least for now.
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Yes, and therein lies the paradox. We've (airline pilots) been pushing for better work rules, especially those concerning duty time and rest between flights, since the first jet aircraft were delivered to Pan Am, TWA, Eastern, etc, etc, and now that we're on the verge of something positive actually happening, there are those in this profession, who still don't see "el picture grande." No doubt, the changes could very likely effect our quality of life somewhat, but the tradeoff would hopefully be that we'd operate, day in and day out, in a much safer mode, because we've been allowed to get adequate rest. Personally I feel it's a good tradeoff. At least for now.
I'm not sure how any of this would actually affect commuting, but I will comment on the most repeated, "we'll have to be in domicile 24 hours in advance of a trip". Personally, I will be no better rested if I'm in a crashpad for 24 hours than had I stayed home and used my big-boy common sense and arrived for my trip prepared to fly safely.
We're "allowed" to get adequate rest right now, at least as it pertains to commuting. Whether you choose to do so or not is your personal and professional responsibility.
I would consider that tradeoff a lose-lose.
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Should your concern be the schedule/ lifestyle or the safe operation?
Bingo.

I've heard more than one of our dudes say "But my schedule is just fine."

Not the right attitude on this one.
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Yes, and therein lies the paradox. We've (airline pilots) been pushing for better work rules, especially those concerning duty time and rest between flights, since the first jet aircraft were delivered to Pan Am, TWA, Eastern, etc, etc, and now that we're on the verge of something positive actually happening, there are those in this profession, who still don't see "el picture grande." No doubt, the changes could very likely effect our quality of life somewhat, but the tradeoff would hopefully be that we'd operate, day in and day out, in a much safer mode, because we've been allowed to get adequate rest. Personally I feel it's a good tradeoff. At least for now.
The problem is you (we) don't know what the trade off is. Does it make you work 3-4 days a week for 4 weeks or allow the continuation of week on week off flying. Wanting something just because isn't always good. The law of unintended consequences is still alive and well today.

The unknown......
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