Another Way To Fight The Cargo Carve-Out!
11-28-2011, 03:30 AM
#51
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[QUOTE=LeftWing;1092166]
Spot on. Careful though...a witty riposte such as, "hit a raw nerve?", is surely coming your way.
Originally Posted by CE750
well you say judgement is part of skill... I say it's in ADDITION to it.
Well no, I did not say that
Is that clear, or do you want me to type it in a different way?
Every company (including UPS) will bend a pull on regs.
Your logic chain is flawed. Perhaps you're too high on your horse to see.
Well no, I did not say that
Is that clear, or do you want me to type it in a different way?
Every company (including UPS) will bend a pull on regs.
Your logic chain is flawed. Perhaps you're too high on your horse to see.
11-28-2011, 08:56 AM
#52
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Originally Posted by CE750
I can understand that to an extent, but this is more of a Fedex scheduling and crew planning issue than an issue of mitigation of fatigue... I don't know what the monthly guarantee is at Fedex, or if you're able to break guarantee easily while complying with this proposal, but I do know that in my case, and in the case of a lot of others in the cargo world these rest rules are crucial. We have our share of "overtime *****s" and I'm sure you do... but the wrong way to schedule an airline is to worry about them and put safety on the back burner.... at lest in my "judgement" it is..
Don't know who you work for or what type of schedule you have but some of the new rules would cause issues at FDX and increase chronic fatigue. Don't know if it will go thru for anyone or not. Heard the entire thing is on hold.
Anyway, politics will play out in the end. And we will go to work either way and enjoy the cold ones on the road.
11-28-2011, 12:42 PM
#53
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[QUOTE=MeXC;1092168]
Spot on. Careful though...a witty riposte such as, "hit a raw nerve?", is surely coming your way.
No raw nerves hit here, but thanks for the warning. It is just that misplaced arrogance is a pet peeve of mine.
Originally Posted by LeftWing
Spot on. Careful though...a witty riposte such as, "hit a raw nerve?", is surely coming your way.
11-28-2011, 10:07 PM
#54
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[QUOTE=LeftWing;1092463]
No raw nerves hit here, but thanks for the warning. It is just that misplaced arrogance is a pet peeve of mine.
how is he arrogant if he's just saying it shows poor judgement to take job where MD11 captains are making $75K/year? have you worked at Skylease or do you know someone there? I think his point is very fair... if not politically correct.
Originally Posted by MeXC
No raw nerves hit here, but thanks for the warning. It is just that misplaced arrogance is a pet peeve of mine.
11-30-2011, 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by FailOperational
how is he arrogant if he's just saying it shows poor judgement to take job where MD11 captains are making $75K/year? have you worked at Skylease or do you know someone there? I think his point is very fair... if not politically correct.
Pilots exhibiting poor judgment can be found at ANY airline.
As for political correctness, I am not following you as PC has nothing to do with this discussion.
Last edited by LeftWing; 11-30-2011 at 07:01 AM.
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