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Old 12-02-2011, 09:03 AM
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W T F...they put in up to 17 airport standbys a day so we can't drop or swap off trips??? How can they do this....*&%#% BS!

Since the company is contractually required to use the reserve modeling software and these standby pairings SHOULD be bonafide to use that model, they need to assign reserves to each and every one of the standby's not picked up.
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Old 12-03-2011, 12:53 AM
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The ANC DP is gone. I thought it might be a new hire....... Not the case.

I guess this guy isn't on 79's OR the SIG's email list, so he didn't get the word. Plus, with the list of DPs in ANC I'm sure it was hard to keep up with them all.

At least it's over Christmas so he's keeping it like luggage (or herpes). I'm sure the reserve Captain he flies with will make sure he starts the new year with plenty of landings.
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Old 12-04-2011, 07:49 PM
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Mostly Yes. Scheduling treats it like a voluntarily flown DP.
I think this is more of an opinion...vs a fact.

It would be interesting to get the PSITs take on this question first. Hopefully they are lurking and can address their position on "revised/corrected" DPs in the next set of SIG Notes or a separate communication.

I think that's a valuable discussion/debate the Union leadership should have in public.

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If nothing else they can revise it right back to where it was at the beginning. I wouldn't want to fly that.
Yes, they could --- but I believe if they did that on this pairing, it would change the showtime or return time by more than 4 hours, which would mean scheduling would have to offer you the trip as a RAT.

At that point, anyone who had picked up the "revised/corrected" pairing (...because it was no longer onerous/unsafe when they picked it up) could decline the RAT, effectively dropping the trip back into Open Time.

(Am I correct here??)

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If they want us to fly it voluntarily they shouldn't build it poorly the first time.
I agree 100%!!
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Old 12-05-2011, 06:52 AM
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It would be interesting to get the PSITs take on this question first. Hopefully they are lurking
Let us know what they say about it...
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Old 12-05-2011, 10:00 AM
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There was a DP about 4 years ago in the Bus that was changed to get rid of the day night swap the SIG disputed. Went to 3 night hub turns in a row. SIG told me after a few emails back and forth is it was still disputed. The trip went into the month disputed and record keeping (DP #xxx picked up voluntarily) and scheduling's ability to change it back left it that way.
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Old 12-12-2011, 04:12 PM
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Nice job my Capts and FOs and the vast majority of SOs!!

...a few senior SOs, not so much

Fly safe over the holidays!
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Old 12-13-2011, 12:08 PM
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Was given this trip, actually two of them back to back, while in Substitution today. Did a double decline. This trip is obviously unsafe, thanks to all of you who have refrained from flying it, sorry to those reserve chaps who have had no choice in the matter.
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Old 12-13-2011, 01:55 PM
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Just happy to be here!

Sincerely,
Reserve Chap flying DP tonight.
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Old 12-13-2011, 05:25 PM
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Make sure you keep a sleep log and definitely send specific feedback on the DP to the ALPA Scheduling guys.
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Old 12-21-2011, 06:08 AM
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How we been doing on these in Dec?

...hopefully, leaving these for the Reserves to fly.

Clearly, the company doesn't see a problem yet as these trips are disputed in January again.

Let's all work to keep these OUT of the bid packs!

Think strategically --- act tactically!

In Safety...and Unity,

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