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Old 12-18-2011, 02:00 PM   #1  
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Default Fedex regrets leaving Subic Bay?

I am a crusty old freight dog and retired a year a go, but my buddies are telling me there is a growing opinion that FedEx is regretting their decision to relocate the Asia/Pac hub to Guangzhou and leave Subic Bay. I'm curious if anyone has heard similar stories on the crew bus at Memphis. Happy holidays to all and I don't miss driving the MD-11 one bit.

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I am a crusty old freight dog and retired a year a go, but my buddies are telling me there is a growing opinion that FedEx is regretting their decision to relocate the Asia/Pac hub to Guangzhou and leave Subic Bay. I'm curious if anyone has heard similar stories on the crew bus at Memphis. Happy holidays to all and I don't miss driving the MD-11 one bit.


Recent statement by Fred Smith himself was it is becoming increasingly difficult to do business in China.
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Old 12-18-2011, 04:29 PM   #3  
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I liked Subic ... hope we go back again
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Same here at UPS in Shenzhen...slot allocations, customs, silly rules, gotta love the Philippines!
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Tough to recover burps in the system since the PRC is tight with extra slots!
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Tough to recover burps in the system since the PRC is tight with extra slots!
Pretty sure the extra Airbus sits Stby in Manila for this very reason.
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The relocation to China was a business ploy to gain more access to China, however UPS and FedEx were naive thinking the Chinese would just open up their country and let them operate at will. Never gonna happen.

FedEx (and other carriers) would be better off operating in a country such as the Philippines, but I think they have already figured that out.
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Takes only one turn (or layover) in Guanzhou to know that it was a mistake. Most of us knew it the first week.

That joint is a pain in the a$$ compared to Subic.

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People underestimate china's anti-competitive actions when competing with their national companies. Look at every other business working in China or competing with their national companies, and you'll see a top ten list of how China will tighten the restrictions on foreign companies, change the rules at will, delay certifications or recerts that almost kill the foreign company. If and when china decides to nationalize their cargo carriers, UPS and FedEx will be in big trouble. They'll be essentially forced out and just think about how much the Asian revenue is for both companies. That's the big risk.

Now saying that, i would take that risk in working for either one of those companies over a US Pax airline anyway, which has to deal with all of the other garbage but it's US borne!

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Takes only one turn (or layover) in Guanzhou to know that it was a mistake. Most of us knew it the first week.

That joint is a pain in the a$$ compared to Subic.

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There's more than a few reasons many SFS guys were domiciled there for years vs. the 2 year revolving door that HKG has become.
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