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Old 01-31-2012, 11:54 AM
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Is there a min days off while in training at Fedex? For example if a guy is in the sim the first three weeks of the month and worked 15 days would they roll him into IOE a few days later or would they give him a certain amount of min days off. It is not new hire training.
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Is there a min days off while in training at Fedex? For example if a guy is in the sim the first three weeks of the month and worked 15 days would they roll him into IOE a few days later or would they give him a certain amount of min days off. It is not new hire training.
Read through Section 11E, particularly paragraph 5. During sims, they plan to at least give you every fifth day off. They can't schedule you for more than 5 days of sims in a row, unless you sign a waiver. No guaranteed time off between sims and IOE, although typically, they schedule the first IOE flights a few days after your last scheduled sim, to allow for the unexpected.
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Also, you should get 6 days off at approximately the mid-point in your training, other than new hire training.
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Is there a min days off while in training at Fedex? For example if a guy is in the sim the first three weeks of the month and worked 15 days would they roll him into IOE a few days later or would they give him a certain amount of min days off. It is not new hire training.
Short Answer: NO!

There is no "Min Days Off" protection during training, only the contractual 6 day break and the so many sims in a row stuff.
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There is a special scheduling program that assures no matter what your start date you will activate no earlier than 22 minutes after release of open time. Thus assuring 14 days of RA your 1st month on the line.
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Is that part of the training letter machine that assigns your training start date 4 days after your CLOE in the aircraft you are leaving?
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There is a special scheduling program that assures no matter what your start date you will activate no earlier than 22 minutes after release of open time. Thus assuring 14 days of RA your 1st month on the line.
funny and true
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Is that part of the training letter machine that assigns your training start date 4 days after your CLOE in the aircraft you are leaving?

Software money wellspent in managements eyes.
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Is there a min days off while in training at Fedex? For example if a guy is in the sim the first three weeks of the month and worked 15 days would they roll him into IOE a few days later or would they give him a certain amount of min days off. It is not new hire training.
echo "727pilot", there are contracutal rules while in training,...but once you finish training & IOE there are no contractual rules for min days off for the rest of the month for a new hire.

Case study from actual expereince, finish IOE 12 days in bid month, get assigned 9 day trip, 19 days on, in 28 day month. (7 days off in bid month after 8 days off in the preceding training month- accounting for no ability to commute home due to 4 on 1 off 3 on 1 off etc)

Spoke to DT contract enforcement, referencing min days off in contract, and it DOES NOT APPLY to new hires. CRS verbally stated that "YOU ARE NOT A PILOT". Didn't know *** I was if I'm not a pilot, contract does not delineate new hire vs "PILOT", but according to DT at contract enforcement, ALPA was not pursuing this egregarious contractual violation. Not worth the neg capital for limited scope of new hires was the response.

Even CRS told me, if you dont like it just drop it, and I did.

Chapped at the contract enformcement viewpoint, but I'd like to think that they could leverage the weak language interpreted for new hires to something tighter in another aspect of reserve availalability/assignent that benefited the entire existing crewforce.
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Chapped at the contract enformcement viewpoint, but I'd like to think that they could leverage the weak language interpreted for new hires to something tighter in another aspect of reserve availalability/assignent that benefited the entire existing crewforce.[/QUOTE]

That would require the folks in contract enforcement to both know how to read a contract and to care.
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