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Flaps50 02-10-2012 05:09 PM

I think that the recapture they are getting at will apply if your company doesn't take out your FICA at 4.2/6.2% differential and you end up only paying 4.2% for all of the first 2 months though you earned over $18,350. They are saying "be prepared".

Although I agree it's an unfunded tax break (just like the $500B/yr Bush tax cuts) I'll take the $$ now as well thanks. (I don't have a party affiliation either).

Flaps50 02-10-2012 05:12 PM


Originally Posted by MaxKts (Post 1132989)
Which "news" channel were you watching?

The way I heard it was the rebubs wanted a full year and the dems would only go for 2 months at a time - that way when they extend it again it makes it look like they are working hard for us :eek:

I don't remember it that way...

Busboy 02-10-2012 05:21 PM

Uhhh....

"...President Obama is proposing a one-year extension and expansion of the tax holiday already in place on the employee share of the payroll tax, cutting it to 3.1% from the 2011 rate of 4.2%. He also proposes cutting the employer share of the tax to 3.1% from 6.2% on the first $5 million of payroll next year; there would be a complete employer payroll tax holiday for companies that grow their payrolls up to $50 million in a year by hiring new workers or raising the salaries of existing workers..."



Fox Business News-Obama's payroll tax plan

jungle 02-10-2012 05:40 PM

Just looking at the math, and no matter how you spin it, SS has turned out to be one of the worst Ponzi schemes ever foisted onto the public at gunpoint.

Most of us would be far better off just stuffing that money into a safe place.

And that is all there is to it, but many are going to try to help you for your own good. They will always be very dangerous.

The original SS was a noble effort, but if you actually study the history, it has been perverted and mutated beyond any reasonable meaning.

MaxKts 02-10-2012 05:45 PM

Read the last sentence of the first paragraph

Payroll tax cut extension passed in Congress - Political Hotsheet - CBS News

FoxHunter 02-10-2012 05:45 PM

The Last Word - Rewriting American Airlines' bankruptcy

Busboy 02-10-2012 05:59 PM


Originally Posted by FoxHunter (Post 1133018)

PBGC working the airline bankruptcies just like it did in 1983, 1989, 2001, 2002, 2004 and 2005. Right?:rolleyes:

jungle 02-10-2012 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by Busboy (Post 1133029)
PBGC working the airline bankruptcies just like it did in 1983, 1989, 2001, 2002, 2004 and 2005. Right?:rolleyes:

PBGC is another program that meets Ponzi standards, any real accounting shows them to be bankrupt.

Busboy 02-10-2012 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by jungle (Post 1133033)
PBGC is another program that meets Ponzi standards, any real accounting shows them to be bankrupt.

But, the difference this time is that they are actually making an attempt to protect the workers pensions. As opposed to just letting the company pawn it off at pennies to the dollar to the PBGC.

jungle 02-10-2012 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by Busboy (Post 1133042)
But, the difference this time is that they are actually making an attempt to protect the workers pensions. As opposed to just letting the company pawn it off at pennies to the dollar to the PBGC.

Who is "they" in this case, and can you show us any real world results?

Much like yet another Ponzi, the FDIC, there is nothing like a real emergency to test plausibility. I can tell you it is not plausible, the numbers can't lie, but people frequently do.


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