The folks in expense reports have not answered my e-mail and I cannot get through on the phone. So, I hope someone has the answer here. I was a master deviator/commuter before moving to my current base (CGN). As a non-commuter (now) I have a question relating to "delaying enroute to my final destination".

I want to deviate on the back end of a trip and delay in my home/base of CGN for less than 48 hours (40 hours to be exact) before proceding to my final destination of Spain. The CBA mentions this but is it possible in my situation since my home and base are one in the same? Does this even matter?

Many thanks in advance...

 

Not sure at all what you are asking..... If you are in domicile (CGN), then you have finished the trip. A back end deadhead would be a ticket to return you to domicile from somewhere else.

I am not clear at all on how FDX is buying you a "backend" deadhead ticket from anywhere to Spain.

Perhaps you are referring to a "Mid trip deviation" where you are scheduled on an airline seat while still on a trip.... If this is the case, then you have to request the mid trip deviation pre-approval from the FOX expense web page (don't ask me why, I'm one of the indians, I ain't the Chief.....). On that submission, they will ask you what your travel plans would be to replace the ticket. If approved, you're in, but still at liability if any of your planned flights canx.

 

Perm,
not applicable info. His question is specific to a back end deadhead. Deviation expense doesn't have anything to do with return to base or even your home of record. it only has to do with your "intended destination" and you can go the opposite way around the world to get there as long as you abide by the criteria.

Oweeo,
As long as you hit all of the wickets, it should be covered.

8.C.4.d
Travel claimed as a deviation expense must begin or end within 3 days of the scheduled assignment to/from which the pilot is deviating (e.g. scheduled deadhead, trip or R-day) and must proceed to the intended destination of the deviation with no greater than a 24 hour delay enroute, domestically, and a 48 hour delay enroute internationally.

As long as you make sure you are done traveling within the 3 days and your layover isn't greater than 48 hours, you're good.

 

Thanks Pakagecheck. The exact language I was using was from 8.C.4.d, which you cited. How you read it is exactly how I read it BUT we all know how "plain language" our CBA is! Hope this helps others out there...

 

O,
I have done that exact thing. The only difference was that it was domestic so I only had 24 hrs. I'm with you, plain language.... not so much! When you do your expense report it will allow you to attach both of your tickets to the original trip.
Enjoy Spain.
Pakage

 

I emailed crew travel just a couple days ago about this (domestic). Explained exactly what I was going to do. They replied within 12 hours. Now I have it in writing from crew travel.

O, I have never had trouble getting a response from crew travel audit. Did you the email address from the expense report webpage in the contact us section?

 

I sent it to the listed address in the expense report section. I came here to ask the question after it sat with them for two full work days and when the weekend was looming. Good thing too because I got the last seat after I separately purchased tickets for the family. Mama would have been really mad if I goofed up HER plans!

 

I don't believe this correct. For example on a back-end deviation. As long as the initial expense claim falls within the 3 day window and you abide by the 24hr/domestic and 48hr/international layover rule you can claim expenses well out the 3 days of the scheduled assignment. Bank dependent.

 

I know that if you do what I stated, you will DEFINITELY be covered. My interpretation, so take it for what it is worth,(within 3 days) begin - to,
end - from. They are sequentially listed in the paragraph. I haven't talked to anyone that has done it your way and had it covered. Not saying it won't work, if it does great!!

 

Sorry about that. What you stated is correct and will be covered. I meant the part about the deviation having to be completed within the 3 day window is the part that I believe to be incorrect.