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Old 03-17-2012 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG
We have had this discussion before. Full on sh it kickers are authorized as long as:

1. They are shined regularly.

2. They have a plain black toe.

3. Said captain wearing them is not a cowboy and/or does not use them to play tennis or practice medicine.

From the FOM: Shoes / boots should be shined regularly.

From the Uniform Policy: The approved uniform shoe must be a black plain toe dress shoe or dress boot. Cowboy boots, tennis shoes, Doc Martens, and similar footwear are not approved for wear...

By anyone's definition, except the person wanting to rationalize why they are not, they were cowboy boots. Plain toe or no (these happened to be so pointy you could squish a cockroach in a corner and were stitched).
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Old 03-17-2012 | 12:39 PM
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"I'm curious why you think we'd be required to walk? " Maybe it the giant walking bridge?? Busses could make shorter loops... less busses/drivers/gas=$$$.

$$$ wins look I saved x. Who cares about the crew

remember paper bid packs? Also less training you did on your own on a computer.
$ wins they 4a2b any way they can.

But back to the uniforms has any one of these fools sent any time in the mostly FILTHY pilot work rooms we have in the field. ACP's have much less power $ than a ramp managers. Who provides us with a grey keyboards, a barley working printer and an old dirty broken lazyboy in a tiny cruddy rarely cleaned room. Then we fly in a dirty acft and eat on the way in the dark. Kinda hard to keep a starch crease and save the apu.
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Old 03-17-2012 | 01:09 PM
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Fixing the uniforms will be easy for management. Last airline I worked for gave you 3 days off without pay if you were away from the aircraft without a hat on. Guess what?, guys wore their hats..... They *****ed, but they wore them. If mgmt starts costing guys thousands of dollars for being out of uniform guys will fall in line quickly. Trust me money will talk.
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Old 03-17-2012 | 01:45 PM
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The new Tchulahoma lot will be a shorter ride to the AOC.

And yes, I ACTUALLY got this from the bus driver.
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Old 03-17-2012 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog
Shoulda seen how he was dressed for a ride on my Jumpseat recently - jeans, sneakers, tan trench coat and looked like he hadn't shaved in a few days (it was a Sunday afternoon). He missed us at the folder and was sitting at the bottom of the crew stairs at the jet when the bus dropped us off. He looked like a hitch hiking hobo. I was glad for the prescedent actually.
BM was dressed like this on your js, or did I read it wrong?
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Old 03-17-2012 | 02:49 PM
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I'm sure he would have been clean shaven had he not been so hammered ;-)
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Old 03-17-2012 | 02:51 PM
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I'm sure it was "water" in the plastic bottle he had at the plane
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Old 03-17-2012 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by The Walrus
BM was dressed like this on your js, or did I read it wrong?
You are correct. Took him to IAD a few months back. Very open to Qs, never thought to ask about unis. Mostly talked about improving VIPS and pfc.
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Old 03-18-2012 | 05:40 AM
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We have an established uniform policy spelled out in the FOM and on the Pilot Website. Part of your job as a FedEx Crewmember is to comply with this policy. However, there will always be a very small group within any larger group that will try to buck the system. These are the guys that show up with a red, white, and blue tie instead of the FedEx tie and then dare some one to say something. They come to work with nonstandard footwear just because they can. If they are willing to bend this rule, then what else are they willing to let slide? It reflects attitude. I saw this in the military all the time. Some folks would gripe and complain about the rules and then selectively decide which ones they wanted to follow. When they were called out for it, it was always "well that's stupid and I don't agree with it."
I agree that there are other, larger issues that need to be addressed, but, if uniforms at FedEx are that big a deal to you, then knock yourself out and fall on your sword over the policy. I guess there are some who believe that following all of the rules is caving in to "the man." Just a few rebels without a cause.
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Old 03-18-2012 | 06:18 AM
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Nice speech, but a few idiots wearing non-standard ties cannot really be the justification used to end the wear of fully authorized and very functional uniform items, and instead limit crew members to wearing the unfunctional piece of gift wrap known as the blazer.
If these rumors are true, I'm going to have flashbacks to the Mcpeak era Air Force. That idiot wasted millions of dollars attempting to beautify the uniforms worn in the Air Force. The effort totally backfired. Not because people didn't waste a lot of time, money and effort trying to comply. But what they were being asked to wear was simply not practical for the environments in which they were being asked to wear it.
Leadership 101....if you want people to comply with rules, enforce the rules. Don't rewrite the rule book.
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