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Old 04-13-2012, 02:16 PM
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The KC-46A contract also contains a deficiency clause that is “the most airtight I have ever seen,” Bogdan says. The language was drawn in part from lessons gleaned from the F-35 experience. Lockheed Martin’s F-35 development program is fraught with concurrency anomalies, exposing the government to hundreds of millions—and potentially billions—of dollars of liability in the form of retrofits. The KC-46A contract stipulates that if any deficiencies are found in the six years of development, Boeing is required to design a fix, gain Air Force approval for it, retrofit it into delivered aircraft and insert it into the production line at no cost to the government.

Bogdan says Boeing has set aside three system-integration laboratories specifically for KC-46A work. Additionally, Fedex has ordered 27 767 freighters that Bogdan suggests will provide some risk-reduction work leading into the build of the first 767-2C (the baseline for the tanker). The freighter will have a cargo door and structurally enhanced floors, tail, wings and empennage—as will the 767-2C. The 2C, however, will include such tanker-specific equipment as specialized wiring and plumbing, a refueling receptacle and boom equipment.

The GAO auditors note that the “aircraft weight forecast is near the aircraft’s weight limit,” a potential concern. The design now has about 2,000 lb. of margin after having grown 600 lb., Bogdan says. However, if Boeing exceeds the 2,000-lb. limit, the aircraft still has margin to meet the performance requirement for range and offload. The risk, he says, would largely be to Boeing’s ability to meet a contractual requirement, not its ability to meet the performance standards.

During a requirements review, the Air Force and Boeing had an “absolute meeting of the minds” on what the “secondary requirements,” which are design elements derived from the key performance parameters, would be for the KC-46A design, says David Van Buren, the outgoing Air Force senior acquisition executive. In the past, a misunderstanding on these “derived” requirements has driven the cost of programs up. In the case of the KC-46A, however, USAF is working aggressively to control requirements in order to avoid reopening the contract for negotiation.

A KC-46A preliminary design review is expected to be completed at the end of the month.

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The version ordered by FedEx is the same as we have at UPS - standard 767-300F freighter. The 2C will be a whole different animal.
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Does the 767-300F have the same cockpit as 767-400 or is it like the original 767-300 cockpit?
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Does the 767-300F have the same cockpit as 767-400 or is it like the original 767-300 cockpit?
The FDX version will likely share a common cockpit with our 757s.
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The FDX version will likely share a common cockpit with our 757s.
Nope it has the Rockwell displays that are going into the Tanker. You can see pictures of it in training.
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG View Post
Nope it has the Rockwell displays that are going into the Tanker. You can see pictures of it in training.
As I understood it, the first two will have the mixed analog/glass displays (similar to the Airbus), all the ones following will have the 787 displays, as LAG pointed out. Pretty sweet setup.
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG View Post
Nope it has the Rockwell displays that are going into the Tanker. You can see pictures of it in training.
That picture is actually a little different than the KC-46 version. The gear handle and other switches are relocated in the tanker version, but nonetheless, a nice display.
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Originally Posted by FDXLAG View Post
Nope it has the Rockwell displays that are going into the Tanker. You can see pictures of it in training.
Thanks for the correction and the photo. Unfortunately I can't see it in training, as I'm just the guy who pushes cans around all night right now.
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Yeah, but where is the ****ter for the UPS 67s?
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