UPS application process...
 

After one applies to UPS and their app is active, is there anything else that I would need to do, or call? or does this start the waiting process?

Get in line, dude.

I realize I need to get in line, but the question I have is: after I fill in the online app. is that all they require, do you get a confirmation or anything?

The on-line app then attend a meet and greet or be introduced by one of your friends to a chief pilot or recruiter.

where do you find out where the meet and greets are?

UPS meet and greets? This is the first I have heard of this, the contacts I have there informed me that hiring is currently by lottery. :eek:

Hello Fireup. You need to get as many letters of rec from UPS pilots. I got my interview and job with UPS with only 2. The whole process took 1 year from the time I applied before I got a class. I applied in Oct. 2005, got my interview June 28th 2006, and they called me on Oct 19th 2006 for a Nov 16th class.

Thanks Top Dog and congrats on the job!! I will just wait and see what happens just like the thousands of others.:D
I was just curious as to how they pick the resume's How does the Lottery system work? Ive never heard of that before...

No one knows how they pick who to call. But like TopDog says, it seems like the more letters of rec from UPS pilots (or mgmt) you have, the better chance you stand of getting that call. And it doesn't hurt to keep updating your info every 4-6 weeks either.

FIREDUP,
This is the way the new online app. works: You answer 4 or 5 basic questions regarding your experience. If you answer the questions properly (if you are qualified) the system asks you more questions. So stop here and think back, how many questions did you answer? More than 4, you're good. About four, well sign back up using a different e-mail address after you have gained some time, got that FE written out of the way, whatever is holding you back. I'll assume you are qualified. UPS does rely heavily on internal recommendations and they are not ashamed to admit it. The problem for most applicants is that for a pilot recommendation to carry any weight, that employee must have flown with the applicant, i.e. not rode on his J/S, drank beer with him etc... I have filled out the pilot referral form several times and it is exhausting, it takes a good hour to fill it out.

Now's here's a catch, if a member of management puts in a recommendation for you, it's as good as gold, it will get you noticed. This manager could be a truck driver, mechanic, ramp supervisor, or chief pilot - it doesn't really matter. So that's your job right now. If you really want this job, start networking now. Rack your brain for guys you've flown with that may have found there way to UPS. Think about who you might know on the ground side of brown as well. If your coming up with a blank, go to the job fairs. UPS will be at a couple a year when hiring and this is your chance to shake the hand of someone who can make a difference for you.

Once you get the call, it's a very non threatening process. H.R. goes out of their way to make all the applicants feel at ease. No gotchas. It's as if they really want to hire everyone that walks in the door.

Wish you the best of luck! Hope this helps.

Thanks Birdstrike,
That info is just what I was looking for! I actually did answer over 4 questions, and have my FE out of the way, and have all the time ++ they require. I am in the searching process now....Thanks again.

Birdstrike, what about no 4 year degrees but three letters of rec?

Anyone out there have any insight on what they really feel about college degrees?

Neosporin

UPS hired a lot of guys without degrees in the early days when they were starting up the airline. It still happens occasionally, but it is by far the exception. They used to gloat about the 4 thousand applications they had on file. Now I cant say there is any truth to that, but I do know they have enough interest that they let a computer sort and store the applications. You've probably noticed that UPS does not list a degree as a requirement, they have very low *requirements* for flight crew applicants. They set the bar much hirer than that and the numbers change based on the market, but the low requirements allow for exceptions. So to answer your question, you can get hired without a 4 year degree, but you would need a very good friend in a very influential position. I would think that someone w/out a degree might just get it online through St. Bart's Island School of give us $$ and we give you degree mon. ;) It's all about checking off a box.

thanks for the response.
I know a 15 year 8 captain, he is motived to help me, but just a line guy.

An hour? It always took me about 5-6!

For any UPS guys out there.
Ive had my app in for about 2 years. Over 2200PIC, FEX, 4 year dgr. I have a letter of rec from a senior line captain. Just recently he had forwarded to L. Parker who used to be in the interview team. He told my sponsor he would forward it to P. Donahue. I know that UPS is currently looking for guys with heavy or Intl. experience. But being a regional guy, will this impove my chances to get an interview? Thanks.

just sticking my nose into this for a brief moment-

the idea that a "senior" captain has more influence in their rec. gettig selected is well- not really true. if anything- my opinion- a new hire or member of management has more influence than a junior or senior line guy.

removing my nose from the thread.

senior captain
 

BoynamedSue...

In part, you are correct...all line recs are probably worth the same, well below those of mgmt recs. However, a capt that has been here a long time probably is on speaking terms with some of the guys that have more pull (managers) and may be able to make things happen.

JMO

Pilot7576

my 2 cents
 

Not to burst your bubble or anything but Mr. Donahue doesn't really have much to do with getting someone an interview. He handles and makes alot of the decisions as to who makes it to what classes and manages the candidate pool. The people in HR like L. Rosa, B. Thompson, etc.(the people in the interview process) are the guys to be hooking up with and dropping names to.

Not true. If you have a degree from an accredited university, put it on your resume. Getting a degree from "St. Bart's Island School" will not help you gain employment at UPS and they do not want to see such "degrees" on resumes/applications.

Source: UPS HR

Don't you hate it when you get taken too seriously. The point was to get a degree, any degree (accredited). Lots of colleges are offering programs that are conducive to a pilots slippery schedule. We have pilots on the roster that have degrees in Journalism, Biology, Law, Education, History, you name it. Online courses are being offered at more and more "real" schools. Might be just the thing some guys need to get the ball rolling with a major.

Thanks for pointing out my exaggeration Dog Breath. No doubt someone could have wasted some money and blew their chances with a airline following my sloppy advice.