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Old 08-08-2012 | 04:16 AM
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I recently did a jumpseat on ComAir, got the lowdown on what took place over there with the employees (from an employee). Could what happened at ComAir happen to us here ??? From what I was told, ComAir/Delta came to the employees and told them to take a 50% paycut to continue operations status quo, if not they would shut it down ................ ComAir is over in 51 days as it exists, Delta made a deal with some carrier called GOJETS and they are going to fly the same route structure as ComAir did FOR HALF THE MONEY ............ Exactly what Delta wanted. Sadly, some of the ComAir crews have left and gone to GOJETS ...................... So again, could FedEx pull the same thing on us ??? Comments please and I would welcome to hear from anyone at ComAir to further verify this calamity.
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Old 08-08-2012 | 04:26 AM
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What are you smoking dude? Could it happen? sure, but you could walk out your front door tomorrow and get hit by a car! How can you compare Fedex and Comair? There is absolutely no similarities between the two. Are you a little bored and want to stir up the 12 angry men? Get a life man!
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Old 08-08-2012 | 04:28 AM
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Originally Posted by tennesseeflyboy
I recently did a jumpseat on ComAir, got the lowdown on what took place over there with the employees (from an employee). Could what happened at ComAir happen to us here ??? From what I was told, ComAir/Delta came to the employees and told them to take a 50% paycut to continue operations status quo, if not they would shut it down ................ ComAir is over in 51 days as it exists, Delta made a deal with some carrier called GOJETS and they are going to fly the same route structure as ComAir did FOR HALF THE MONEY ............ Exactly what Delta wanted. Sadly, some of the ComAir crews have left and gone to GOJETS ...................... So again, could FedEx pull the same thing on us ??? Comments please and I would welcome to hear from anyone at ComAir to further verify this calamity.
could it? maybe.

major difference here though, Comair is a wholly owned subsidiary of Delta and if they had all the leverage. Comair has the oldest 50 seat jets and the best contract of the regional s. Delta wanted this to happen, it was going to happen.

Does FedEx want to contract our work out (assuming they would win a scope battle) with 15 contract carriers??? nope, even at rock bottom prices because you get what you pay for. The loss of control and single point service is not possible without cutting yourself off at the knees with the exact reason we survive and thrive , reliable service that they control to the greatest extent practicable.
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Old 08-08-2012 | 04:34 AM
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There's no need to worry about contractors. We'll do it to ourselves, if anything.
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Old 08-08-2012 | 05:58 AM
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No smoke here ............... If you guys think it can't happen because of this and that and whatever your insulation tends to think, I believe we are all fooling ourselves ................ The ComAir dilemma is a real threat and worst of all, legal. I would not discount ANYTHING at this point in time where our company is realizing 2.2% returns on the money and they want better results ......................
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Old 08-08-2012 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by tennesseeflyboy
No smoke here ............... If you guys think it can't happen because of this and that and whatever your insulation tends to think, I believe we are all fooling ourselves ................ The ComAir dilemma is a real threat and worst of all, legal. I would not discount ANYTHING at this point in time where our company is realizing 2.2% returns on the money and they want better results ......................
Dude did you go to Mars with that space rover? Because it seems like that's where your head is at..
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Old 08-08-2012 | 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by tennesseeflyboy
I recently did a jumpseat on ComAir, got the lowdown on what took place over there with the employees (from an employee). Could what happened at ComAir happen to us here ??? From what I was told, ComAir/Delta came to the employees and told them to take a 50% paycut to continue operations status quo, if not they would shut it down ................ Comments please

No smoke here ............... If you guys think it can't happen because of this and that and whatever your insulation tends to think, I believe we are all fooling ourselves ................
Someone else that thinks foreign, or other pilots, are going to take our flying. Have you been flying with BC?

Sorry, I didn't buy this line of thinking when the HKG LOA was in play and I'm not buying it now.

But I do believe this is the mindset that managers use to justify their housing allowance witch hunt. Helps them sleep at night I'm sure.
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Old 08-08-2012 | 08:32 AM
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While I don't think it is going to happen to you at purple it would behoove you to consider one of your largest competitors, DHL. While they do own some lift, a large percentage of their flying is done by contractors on time and with little fanfare. It can be done, it just comes down to how much total control you want over your product. I would be willing to bet that your maintenance guys are even more worried about outsourcing than your pilots. Many lagrge international airlines have shifted much of their heavy checks to third party vendors over the last 10-15 years.

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Old 08-08-2012 | 09:58 AM
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About 80-90% of our heavy checks are farmed out at FX.
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Old 08-08-2012 | 05:17 PM
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