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Old 09-25-2012, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by 757niteflyer View Post
I'm not the enemy, sounds like from previous post your MEC wasnt telling you everything, which is what I tried to tell you. Sounds like jv and DM told you guys what the real possibilities were if the merger failed, I said the same thing. I think you guys are putting your trust in an MEC that didn't tell you how things are. You trusted some individuals that are weak, didn't want to communicate with you the truths of the merger and didn't want to take responsibilities. We were told right from the beginning from our MEC the good the bad the ugly. We have a trust in jv and DM we have a good relationship, we could have and should have been shut down a while ago, but we survived. You better start waking up and realizing the truths in the matter. If you think it's gonna be a staple job your wrong. We have been briefed on the realistic possibilities of the isl. not what we wish, no fist pounding just plane facts. Have you ?
This will be your downfall. You cannot trust them. They are not in charge. Hete is.
You cannot even trust them to honor what is in your contract.
Guess y'all will have to learn the hard way.
get ready for a royal ******ing....
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Old 09-25-2012, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by 757niteflyer View Post
I'm not the enemy, sounds like from previous post your MEC wasnt telling you everything, which is what I tried to tell you. Sounds like jv and DM told you guys what the real possibilities were if the merger failed, I said the same thing. I think you guys are putting your trust in an MEC that didn't tell you how things are. You trusted some individuals that are weak, didn't want to communicate with you the truths of the merger and didn't want to take responsibilities. We were told right from the beginning from our MEC the good the bad the ugly. We have a trust in jv and DM we have a good relationship, we could have and should have been shut down a while ago, but we survived. You better start waking up and realizing the truths in the matter. If you think it's gonna be a staple job your wrong. We have been briefed on the realistic possibilities of the isl. not what we wish, no fist pounding just plane facts. Have you ?
It's Going straight to Arbitration... I'm sure there is no negotiating with you guys. Yea your not the "Enemy" your just another pilot group. ATI guys want the best for them, so do you I'm sure. But you guys get a windfall in pay and benefits, so I think ATI should get something on the ISL. Only my opinion, but opinions are like ***holes, everyone's got one, so do you 757
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Old 09-25-2012, 12:32 PM
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Yea it's going straight to the arbitrator. You know, the guy your ISL team blew off twice. Real nice!!!! Good luck with that!
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Old 09-25-2012, 02:09 PM
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I'm sure they dont know about that either. Of course their will be a logical answer why their ISL team did what they did.
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Old 09-25-2012, 04:28 PM
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So this is what moving forward looks like...
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Old 09-25-2012, 05:13 PM
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You know this moving forward, I'm sorry to say is all about compromise. I guess we have to take 1 step back to take 2 steps forward. Hopefully all for the greater good. We all are going to take a hit ( seniority ).

This Dick Cabeza guy has been nothing but negitive. untrusting, doom & gloom etc. I'm sure he's a real pleasure in the cockpit.
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Old 09-25-2012, 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 757sport View Post
Yea it's going straight to the arbitrator. You know, the guy your ISL team blew off twice. Real nice!!!! Good luck with that!
Yet another LIE.
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Old 09-25-2012, 05:43 PM
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When we all become one big happy family and it's time to pick the new MEC to lead us. Chuck Hill has a good working relationship with management. He has been straight and honest with us every step of the way. He shows up for meetings even when he had vacations planed. That's because he cares about our future. That's called integrity and character.
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 757sport View Post
You know this moving forward, I'm sorry to say is all about compromise. I guess we have to take 1 step back to take 2 steps forward. Hopefully all for the greater good. We all are going to take a hit ( seniority ).

This Dick Cabeza guy has been nothing but negitive. untrusting, doom & gloom etc. I'm sure he's a real pleasure in the cockpit.

Get off it Sport, its Done, you guys got what you wanted, now grow up and back off!

Again if you want to start a feud between pilot groups keep up your crap, I stated the fact it is going straight to arbitration, from what I understand you guys requested it first, and I think for all involved it is best, less Bad Blood between our pilot groups.
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Old 09-26-2012, 11:08 AM
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First of all, I think it's still in the ISL committee but if it goes to the arbitrator, Do you think you will be happy with his decision? My hope is that our guys can figure it out. That would be the best case scenario. I'm not trying to start a feud. When we were in the BAX system I got along great with the ATI pilots. I just want what is best for you , me and the company. OK
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