Contract thoughts
Lets not get blindsided on this , lot at stake and I am sure company will want a chunk out of us ........ Make Scope the priority and don't give away the store ...........Don't screw the junior guys and gals
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Sure would simplify bidding if all planes paid widebody rate.
Then the company could swap out 757 for 767 with no difference to the pilots. And there'd be less training - pilots wouldn't have to go back and forth narrowbody / widebody to chase money. |
+1
Seems like this would ultimately save the company money, and then everyone can truly "bid what they want to fly." |
Chasing money at FedEx. You guys crack me up. Lord knows the narrowbody guys are starving.:)
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Just read the FDX Negotiating Committee Update email and saw this line about a Sec 25 proposal from the company , "Most noteworthy, the proposal contained a form of Preferential Bidding". I personally can not imagine voting for any contract that has any form of Preferential Bidding in it, and hopefully others and our neg. committee feel the same way. JUST SAY NO!!!
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A couple of months ago, I emailed the Chairman, my block rep, and each member of the Negotiating Committee. I told them that from everyone I've ever talked with, any form of Preferential Bidding or changes to vacation or retirement (except improvements) would get a resounding NO from the crew force. There are a few sacred cows around here, and those 3 are the main ones. Each one responded and said, "Not on my watch." So I'm going to email them all again and remind them that any attempt on these fronts would be non-starters. I suggest that all who feel that way do the same.
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I was in the Capts Course this summer and asked SS directly if PBS was a player. He responded, "It's not even on the table" FWIW....
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Throw a couple 3% pay raises in and the vote will be 68% to 32% in favor :mad:
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Originally Posted by Huck
(Post 1283098)
Sure would simplify bidding if all planes paid widebody rate.
Then the company could swap out 757 for 767 with no difference to the pilots. And there'd be less training - pilots wouldn't have to go back and forth narrowbody / widebody to chase money. We could end up with 150 757s some day and they can save lots of $$ paying those at a NB rate. Having a folks sit reserve for both 757 and 767 at NB rates is something they want too. |
Originally Posted by DLax85
(Post 1283852)
Having a folks sit reserve for both 757 and 767 at NB rates is something they want too.
But, those lanyards are sure stylish. |
Originally Posted by MX727
(Post 1283988)
And that's why I was always surprised at the number of guys that wanted the company to get the 767. Yay, a Boeing, where their monthly pay will end up averaging NB x 1.5 if they're lucky. :confused:
But, those lanyards are sure stylish. |
I KNOW Flt Mgt has had special projects guys working on Preferential bidding for months.....I am surprised the Union doesn't know about this. If I do, they should.
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Originally Posted by 42GO
(Post 1284149)
I KNOW Flt Mgt has had special projects guys working on Preferential bidding for months.....I am surprised the Union doesn't know about this. If I do, they should.
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Originally Posted by MEMbrain
(Post 1284039)
We need a blended rate across the board like UPS has. It's BS that their 757 Captains make $37/hr MORE than our 757 Captains do.
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Originally Posted by 42GO
(Post 1284149)
I KNOW Flt Mgt has had special projects guys working on Preferential bidding for months.....I am surprised the Union doesn't know about this. If I do, they should.
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Originally Posted by DLax85
(Post 1283852)
According to PC at the last big Instructor Mtg this simply isn't going to happen.
We could end up with 150 757s some day and they can save lots of $$ paying those at a NB rate. Having a folks sit reserve for both 757 and 767 at NB rates is something they want too. |
Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog
(Post 1284184)
Of course they've known about this! What makes you think they didn't?
Are you serious? Do you really believe the union didn't or doesn't know about the company's desire for PBS? This kind of post amazes me. Just ridiculous. |
Maybe the lawyers didnt want them to tell us they knew. But they knew, that we knew they knew.
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If we get PBS we better get 100% pay raise, double the vacation, double sick leave and unlimited drop.
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Originally Posted by MEMA300
(Post 1284391)
If we get PBS we better get 100% pay raise, double the vacation, double sick leave and unlimited drop.
I know you're being tongue in cheek, but not even those changes would make up for the irrepairable harm done to the entire pilot group for the REMAINDER of their career.....IMHO, it would make age 65 and 4a2B look like a walk in the park Do NOT let the camel's nose under the tent.....sorry for sticking my nose where it no longer belongs......I'm a bit sensitive after the last 5 years under PBS. Best regards, BG |
BG, thanks for the input and perspective. You belong.
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