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I don't see any attacks. I believe we are on the same side.:D
There is much more to this than the findings of a press release. If anyone was surprised by this, then I am not sure what to tell you. Of course it costs too much. If you look at the data, that was provided to this study regarding fatigue, it is obvious a VERY small percentage of pilots actually ever call fatigued. Hard to argue with the numbers. I am not sure how the IPA has shot itself in the foot. Again? What are you talking about?:confused: |
I support the IPA's effort. No attacks here.
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Originally Posted by Moondance
(Post 1312328)
After much cheer-leading in the beginning, the IPA has now lost the FAA lawsuit. No leverage left now. Last spring, Travis was patting himself on the back when the US Dept. of Justice filed court papers stating a mistake was made in the calculation of the cost-benefit data. The problem now is the data is now more in the FAA's benefit! OOPS! All cargo unions must now dig themselves out a much bigger (244 M) hole if they are to be successful in reversing this cargo exclusion. This is much like train-wreck Thrush all over again. The IPA has been largely silent about this.
You can read the filing here: https://www.federalregister.gov/arti...t-requirements |
Originally Posted by 757upspilot
(Post 1312843)
First post. NURP
Trucking company low level supervisors, one order away from becoming full time scabs - masquerading as line pilots on a pilot forum. Nice. |
Well said, you can't trust any of these guys.
Originally Posted by Lineslug
(Post 1313019)
Yep. It sucks that these NURP'S (Non-Union Replacement Pilots) don't have the honesty to identify themselves as such when posting, but it's par for the course. Their dishonesty in identifying themselves makes it look like it is a real UPS/IPA pilot posting these divisive remarks and half truths.
Trucking company low level supervisors, one order away from becoming full time scabs - masquerading as line pilots on a pilot forum. Nice. |
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Originally Posted by MaydayMark
(Post 1314115)
the Air Line Pilots Association, representing the pilots of FedEx, commented: “After reviewing the FAA supplemental cost-benefit analysis of cargo operations in the new FAR 117 flight-time/duty-time rule generated in response to the Independent Pilots Association suit, ALPA remains committed to ensuring one level of safety for all passenger and cargo operations. We believe calculating cost versus benefit based on the absence of an aircraft accident and resulting passenger fatalities is a fallacy, and a severe deficiency in the cost-benefit process…While the government has shifted to evaluating safety improvements by eliminating accident precursors in other areas, it chose not to do so in this case. We remain committed to pursuing a fix to the flawed cargo cutout from the new flight-time/duty-time rule, both through regulatory action and pursuit of the Safe Skies Act on Capitol Hill.” The FAA is accepting comments on this latest proposal until Feb. 11, 2013. |
Originally Posted by Moondance
(Post 1312328)
After much cheer-leading in the beginning, the IPA has now lost the FAA lawsuit. No leverage left now. Last spring, Travis was patting himself on the back when the US Dept. of Justice filed court papers stating a mistake was made in the calculation of the cost-benefit data. The problem now is the data is now more in the FAA's benefit! OOPS! All cargo unions must now dig themselves out a much bigger (244 M) hole if they are to be successful in reversing this cargo exclusion. This is much like train-wreck Thrush all over again. The IPA has been largely silent about this.
You can read the filing here: https://www.federalregister.gov/arti...t-requirements What a shocker. If you'd bother reading the finding and researching deeper than the depths of your obviously limited intellect, you'd discover that: The FAA, after saying that cargo pilot safety is for sale then reaffirmed its stupidity by conducting a subsequent "study" (at considerable taxpayer expense...that being us, genius) to reinforce its finding that cargo pilot safety is for sale at a slightly higher price, and room temperature IQ masterminds like you say IPA has blown it? Really? You make FDXFLAG look like he has a slightly-higher-than-room-temperature IQ, and that's saying a lot. |
Originally Posted by Lineslug
(Post 1313019)
Yep. It sucks that these NURP'S (Non-Union Replacement Pilots) don't have the honesty to identify themselves as such when posting, but it's par for the course. Their dishonesty in identifying themselves makes it look like it is a real UPS/IPA pilot posting these divisive remarks and half truths.
Trucking company low level supervisors, one order away from becoming full time scabs - masquerading as line pilots on a pilot forum. Nice. Nurp... 1.Commonly known as a "nipple" to most, but to the elite, its Nurp. The main purpose of a nurp is to be squeezed, mainly by the index finger and the thumb, but some people are creative. After being succesfully squeezed, the nurp should become the color "purp" a variation of purple, soley used with nurps. So I just figured it was somehow about trying to become "purple"... ie become like FedEx.. :D |
Spongebob as always a day late and a dollar short. Did you feel picked on by the mean fdx pilots too.
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