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Old 12-20-2012, 12:41 PM
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Default Scheduled Company Jumpseat and Deviation Bank

I know this has probably been asked before but my searches were fruitless.

I was scheduled for a trip off reserve that included a company jumpseat to OAK on the backend due to lack of availability of seats on Alaska out of ANC. It then included a ticket from OAK to LAX to get me home. The accepted fare reflects only the ticket from OAK to LAX. I was able to find a seat through global travel after the pairing was built that gets me from ANC-SEA-LAX. Obviously this ticket is more than the accepted fare from OAK to LAX. Will I have to pay the difference out of pocket? What are my options? Any help would be appreciated.
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Originally Posted by PicF16 View Post
I know this has probably been asked before but my searches were fruitless.

I was scheduled for a trip off reserve that included a company jumpseat to OAK on the backend due to lack of availability of seats on Alaska out of ANC. It then included a ticket from OAK to LAX to get me home. The accepted fare reflects only the ticket from OAK to LAX. I was able to find a seat through global travel after the pairing was built that gets me from ANC-SEA-LAX. Obviously this ticket is more than the accepted fare from OAK to LAX. Will I have to pay the difference out of pocket? What are my options? Any help would be appreciated.
Pic, the front end D/H has a value to it even though you were not able to use it. You will be OK and will only have to pay the extra (if any) from the combined ticket amounts.
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You should be able to go to the expense report page and find your estimated accepted fare by clicking on the accepted fares link. You can then add the amount in the fare missing on your expense report to get yourself that warm feeling.
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I was hoping this was true but couldn't find it written anywhere...
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I was hoping this was true but couldn't find it written anywhere...
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I would be careful with this one, from my experience the jumpseat ANC-OAK does not have any bank value. However if you found a ticket that is legal to be built as the scheduled flight I would call CRS and tell them there is a ticket open and to revise your trip and get it. If the flight you want from ANC-LAX is not legal then it is a pure deviation and I would recommend considering only your bank from the OAK-LAX flight as what you have to spend. If you enter a missing travel bank in FOX I would wait for the approved or more likely disallowed reply to ensure you dont overspend.

May have changed since it happened to me but good luck and hope it works out differently for you.
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I was assigned a trip on reserve yesterday-DH ANC to MEM then HSBY for two days the DH back to ANC. Due to christmas traffic there are not any open pax seats so they have me DH'ing to MEM on the company JS. I thought my dev DH bank account is credited with $ for that leg. I asked corp travel what the fare would be and they said they can't give me one since there are not any seats available. Looking under the travel expense section there are a ton of DH flights with fares ANC-MEM but since mine is an X pairing it is not listed. So do I get any bank money for this leg? I will call contract admin on monday if they are working! I did not see and specific language. I know in cases like ALA-CDG DH, since we did not have visa we had to go on company JS but your bank got $.
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An operational jumpseat in-lieu of a normal DH does not result in any travel bank money being added to your pot. You are SOL for that leg.

The only exception was ALA and that is spelled out very specifically in the contract attachment to the DH section.

I had one from ANC-OAK last year and called contract enforcement. Sorry.
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Adler, Thanks for the reply. Looks like we need another DH fix. With airline flights so full now, the days are gone that the company can schedule tickets late and still get seats. Seems like there are a lot more DH on the company JS lately.
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver View Post
An operational jumpseat in-lieu of a normal DH does not result in any travel bank money being added to your pot. You are SOL for that leg.

The only exception was ALA and that is spelled out very specifically in the contract attachment to the DH section.

I had one from ANC-OAK last year and called contract enforcement. Sorry.
I don't believe that is correct. Even though you had to take the company jumpseat, I still think you get an "accepted fare" for ANC-MEM. They are allowed to put you on a company aircraft due to operational necessity, but there has to be some sort of bank. For contract enforcement to say you are SOL is BS. No wonder "unity" is weak with responses like that. Make sure you let the SIG know.
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There are at least four of us going down to MEM on the JS today vice on a ticket to sit HSBY. Nice savings by the company. There should be a bank even though there are not any pax seats. Seems like a easy pass by the company. I will talk to the SIG and contract about this.
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