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Old 01-01-2013, 10:09 AM   #1  
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I know that every month is different at Atlas Air, and I've read through the threads about them, but... just curious if someone can post some current examples of monthly schedules, as actually flown, at Atlas Air for the different fleet types.

Mostly interested in the routing, length of layovers, and how many days actually away from home.

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Old 01-01-2013, 11:37 AM   #2  
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The schedule does not change monthly, it changes hourly. We are issued 8.9" Tabs with a scheduling app and an international data plan to keep track of it.

The only thing that can be said is that the company owns you for 17 days, extendable by 3 days in some situations (which pays well). Many trips are long, some are not. The general structure of schedules in a base can change from month to month, so what a given schedule looked like in December is not in any way a prediction of what it will look like in March.

And that is really it.
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Old 01-01-2013, 12:30 PM   #3  
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Hey, I have an idea...how about we refer you to the thread below. Please do your homework, and read the entire 500+ pages if you are even remotely interested in Atlas Air (or any other ACMI, Supplemental, etc carrier)...that way you don't waste your time, the company's time, and most importantly, take up a slot from someone that is genuinely right for this job...yes, it is a long thread, and has strayed on occasion, but I promise you it is actually worth your time.

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/hi...ir-hiring.html

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The schedule does not change monthly, it changes hourly. We are issued 8.9" Tabs with a scheduling app and an international data plan to keep track of it.

The only thing that can be said is that the company owns you for 17 days, extendable by 3 days in some situations (which pays well). Many trips are long, some are not. The general structure of schedules in a base can change from month to month, so what a given schedule looked like in December is not in any way a prediction of what it will look like in March.

And that is really it.
I meant that I know that no two months are ever the same. Of course they're not predictions, but examples would still be nice.
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Hey, I have an idea...how about we refer you to the thread below. Please do your homework, and read the entire 500+ pages if you are even remotely interested in Atlas Air (or any other ACMI, Supplemental, etc carrier)...that way you don't waste your time, the company's time, and most importantly, take up a slot from someone that is genuinely right for this job...yes, it is a long thread, and has strayed on occasion, but I promise you it is actually worth your time.

http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/hi...ir-hiring.html

Good luck.
Thanks. I already read that thread. I saw the examples people had posted. But a lot has changed since in the world since some of them were posted and every example better helps one picture in their head "this could be my life" than just "17 days on, 8.9" tablet, etc". Maybe its just the way I learn. Facts and stats don't help nearly as much as actual examples.

Sorry this is too much to ask for.

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Second year JFK 744/8 F/O here. These are my schedules from the last 6 months of 2012. Hope this helps. Keep in mind that the flights from and to JFK/LGA at the beginning and end of each trip are fake, and are there for pay purposes only. Those flights were actually from my gateway (home city) airport. "X" days are days off. "VX" days are days off where I've voluntarily made myself available to pick up open time trips. "REST" are days off at the end of a trip where I can't fly due to 4-man crew regulatory rest requirements. Anything with a * in front of the departure point is a commercial airline flight or deadhead on a company plane. R2 is 90 minute callout reserve duty in a hotel. PT is a 6 month sim check but not a full checkride. FBS is the -8 differences training.




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Wow, thats awesome, thanks Lonestar!
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Thanks. I already read that thread. I saw the examples people had posted. But a lot has changed since in the world since some of them were posted and every example better helps one picture in their head "this could be my life" than just "17 days on, 8.9" tablet, etc". Maybe its just the way I learn. Facts and stats don't help nearly as much as actual examples.

Sorry this is too much to ask for.
The point he was making is that the examples posted are meaningless. What is awarded and what really happens are two different worlds, so basing decisions on the example is a recipe for disappointment.

The best plan is as it has always been. Bid what you want, get what you bid and expect it all to change minute by minute. Expect to leave the U.S. in the rearview mirror on Day 1 and see it again in the windshield on Day 17...maybe. Don't plan on being home until your feet cross the front door threshold.

And all that is subject to change and the needs of the customer...
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The point he was making is that the examples posted are meaningless. What is awarded and what really happens are two different worlds, so basing decisions on the example is a recipe for disappointment.

The best plan is as it has always been. Bid what you want, get what you bid and expect it all to change minute by minute. Expect to leave the U.S. in the rearview mirror on Day 1 and see it again in the windshield on Day 17...maybe. Don't plan on being home until your feet cross the front door threshold.

And all that is subject to change and the needs of the customer...
I completely understand that, but seeing a "this actually is what happened to an Atlas Air pilot" makes it a lot easier to get a grasp as to what the life is like. Of course, you can't expect to ever have the schedule in the example, but you can see what your life will be like.
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