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Old 01-18-2013, 06:14 PM
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For the first time in a long time, not only can I unpinch my nose at something Tony said......I.....(I can't believe I'm saying this).....I.........actually.....(ahem).....agree with him.
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Old 01-18-2013, 08:13 PM
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For the first time in a long time, not only can I unpinch my nose at something Tony said......I.....(I can't believe I'm saying this).....I.........actually.....(ahem).....agree with him.
Tony is certainly far from always being right, but his heart is always in the right place.
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"Although it has taken an inexcusably long time to outfit all of our airplanes with EFBs, the whole reason for choosing LIDO in the first place was their far, far superior EFB product."

Correction, only half the Airbus fleet. 5 plus years to (not) finish the job.
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Old 01-24-2013, 08:30 AM
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I was under the impression that our EFB's would have Jepps Flight Deck Pro software - not just the Jepp Viewer (.pdf pages)

there's a link to the user's guide for the Flight Deck Pro on the p.f.com Flight Planning Center home page under
01/04/13 Jeppesen Training Resources

like this:

Mobile FliteDeck and FliteDeck Pro | EFB Charts & Apps | Jeppesen

better or worse than the EFB version of LIDO is yet to be determined?
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Old 01-24-2013, 05:54 PM
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As far as I can see from the on-line training, the Jeppesen product has not improved since then. It's still little more than a PDF reader of their paper charts.

Having terrain and accurate scaling on the arrival, approach, and departure plates is just one advantage of LIDO -- terrain awareness at a glance is a huge situational awareness advantage. Distance/Altitude tables for "constant descent" on approach make the "no electronic or visual glidepath aids" approaches much simpler. Communication information on the enroute charts where it's needed simplifies enroute.

I'm trying to think of one area where Jeppesen does it better.

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Can you say, "enroute moving map?"
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Old 01-24-2013, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Full pull View Post

"Although it has taken an inexcusably long time to outfit all of our airplanes with EFBs, the whole reason for choosing LIDO in the first place was their far, far superior EFB product."

Correction, only half the Airbus fleet. 5 plus years to (not) finish the job.

The reason I didn't specify a time ("inexcusably long time") is that the job is not complete, so we don't know what that time is yet. Half the Airbus fleet? I thought it was less than that. Only 3 of the HKG birds have 'em.



Originally Posted by AFW_MD11 View Post

I was under the impression that our EFB's would have Jepps Flight Deck Pro software - not just the Jepp Viewer (.pdf pages)

there's a link to the user's guide for the Flight Deck Pro on the p.f.com Flight Planning Center home page under
01/04/13 Jeppesen Training Resources

like this:

Mobile FliteDeck and FliteDeck Pro | EFB Charts & Apps | Jeppesen

better or worse than the EFB version of LIDO is yet to be determined?

Jeppesen Flight Deck Pro is, as far as I can tell, a snazzy interface to access the same ole charts.



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Can you say, "enroute moving map?"

Moving map requires hardware to provide aircraft position to the EFB. I'm sure someone will correct me (with glee) if I'm wrong, but I believe our B-777s have moving map with LIDOs. (I KNOW they have the moving map, I BELIEVE it's LIDO.)






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Old 01-28-2013, 06:00 PM
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Any bets on how many of these monthly Jepps training sessions we end up with? Screw the opentime bot, I want a LMS bot.
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Triple 7's do have a moving map with LIDO. Works great.
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Old 01-29-2013, 05:16 AM
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The first LMS lesson was listed as taking 35 minutes to complete. This second one, obviously created because they realized that the first one was not sufficient to train crews to be able to operate the new software is listed as a 15 minute LMS lesson. Per the CBA these types of no pay lessons are limited to 45 minutes. If done properly the first time, the lesson would have been 50 minutes long and warranted a paid event.
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Old 01-29-2013, 06:05 AM
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I don't think they're that devious, just incompetent.
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