FDX Jepp viewer
01-18-2013, 10:44 AM
#6
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2008
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jepps
Just a note from someone going through training right now...
Not impressed so far, they are in 2 md11 ftds already. Extremely slow to load, no color on approach plates, can't load setup the routing, can't look up mel other or documents without crashing, poor zoom control...
Hopefully will just be learning curve finding where they are hiding the pertinate info with the new viewer.
Some genius in training mgmt thought it was a good idea to try this out in the middle of some peoples training. Would have been nice to have started training with a single concept.
Oh well, have come to expect hurdles with our training dept.
Not impressed so far, they are in 2 md11 ftds already. Extremely slow to load, no color on approach plates, can't load setup the routing, can't look up mel other or documents without crashing, poor zoom control...
Hopefully will just be learning curve finding where they are hiding the pertinate info with the new viewer.
Some genius in training mgmt thought it was a good idea to try this out in the middle of some peoples training. Would have been nice to have started training with a single concept.
Oh well, have come to expect hurdles with our training dept.
01-18-2013, 11:22 AM
#7
Line Dawg
Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: 777 Captain LCA
Posts: 150
Maybe you shouldn't indict the entire training department. These decisions come from way above the management of the training department. It's better that you learn in a 1g sim or FTD than on the line. Write them up on every event if they are that bad. It wont get better from just complaining. Document it enough so that it gets someone's attention.
01-18-2013, 11:33 AM
#8
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That sounds about right, 'its not our fault'
I hear that alot during this training process, some screwed up, stupid procedure being taught for no good reason.
I'm not attacking anyone in particular. I forgot that everyone is hyper-sensitive on this board.
Bye!
I hear that alot during this training process, some screwed up, stupid procedure being taught for no good reason.
I'm not attacking anyone in particular. I forgot that everyone is hyper-sensitive on this board.
Bye!
01-18-2013, 04:08 PM
#9
Organizational Learning
Joined APC: Nov 2005
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Posts: 4,948
Originally Posted by HIFLYR
Originally Posted by XprsFr8r
Yeah, but I had the feeling of seeing an old friend while going through the LMS lesson.
I, for one, am glad to see Jepps back!
Although it has taken an inexcusably long time to outfit all of our airplanes with EFBs, the whole reason for choosing LIDO in the first place was their far, far superior EFB product.
As far as I can see from the on-line training, the Jeppesen product has not improved since then. It's still little more than a PDF reader of their paper charts.
Having terrain and accurate scaling on the arrival, approach, and departure plates is just one advantage of LIDO -- terrain awareness at a glance is a huge situational awareness advantage. Distance/Altitude tables for "constant descent" on approach make the "no electronic or visual glidepath aids" approaches much simpler. Communication information on the enroute charts where it's needed simplifies enroute.
I'm trying to think of one area where Jeppesen does it better.
Maybe the real EFB is much different than what the LMS looks like.
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01-18-2013, 04:22 PM
#10
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: B777 Captain
Posts: 566
Tony, true, and I agree.
Originally Posted by TonyC
Are you referring to the paper product, or the EFB product?
Although it has taken an inexcusably long time to outfit all of our airplanes with EFBs, the whole reason for choosing LIDO in the first place was their far, far superior EFB product.
As far as I can see from the on-line training, the Jeppesen product has not improved since then. It's still little more than a PDF reader of their paper charts.
Having terrain and accurate scaling on the arrival, approach, and departure plates is just one advantage of LIDO -- terrain awareness at a glance is a huge situational awareness advantage. Distance/Altitude tables for "constant descent" on approach make the "no electronic or visual glidepath aids" approaches much simpler. Communication information on the enroute charts where it's needed simplifies enroute.
I'm trying to think of one area where Jeppesen does it better.
Maybe the real EFB is much different than what the LMS looks like.
.
Although it has taken an inexcusably long time to outfit all of our airplanes with EFBs, the whole reason for choosing LIDO in the first place was their far, far superior EFB product.
As far as I can see from the on-line training, the Jeppesen product has not improved since then. It's still little more than a PDF reader of their paper charts.
Having terrain and accurate scaling on the arrival, approach, and departure plates is just one advantage of LIDO -- terrain awareness at a glance is a huge situational awareness advantage. Distance/Altitude tables for "constant descent" on approach make the "no electronic or visual glidepath aids" approaches much simpler. Communication information on the enroute charts where it's needed simplifies enroute.
I'm trying to think of one area where Jeppesen does it better.
Maybe the real EFB is much different than what the LMS looks like.
.
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