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Freight Dog 11-17-2006 01:53 PM

UPS 747-400F vacancy bid out
 
This is the largest vacancy bid in my 10 years at UPS, with 97 net new captains required. It's also the initial bid for crews required for the arrival of the first 747-400F in 2007.

From the IPA Newscast:
{VACANCY BID}
Today the Company posted two realignment bids plus a follow-on
displacement bid that deals with any remaining unrealigned positions.
*The two bids combined add 97 new Captains to the systemwide
headcount.
*The two bids combined add 131 new FO's to the systemwide headcount.
*All probationary crewmembers can bid for vacancies and, if interested,
should have a system bid on file.
*Realignment bid 06-106 is the first B747-400 bid with 30 crews
domiciled in ANC.
This is the first bid under the new Agreement. Here are some
of the new provisions:
*Increased transition opportunities.
*757 and MD-11 crewmembers can now transition between the their
different domiciles more easily.
*Crewmembers in the position declared excess in a realignment
bid posting will be able to qualify their bids to only be awarded
a position in another geographical location if they would be
entitled to a paid move.
Summary of vacancies:

747-400 Capt ANC: 30 pilots
747-400 FO ANC: 30

MD11 Capt ANC: 30
MD11 FO ANC: 40

MD11 Capt SDF: (-30)
MD11 FO SDF: 10

757/767 Capt ONT: 18
757/767 FO ONT: 27

757/767 Capt SDF: 14
757/767 FO SDF: 7

757/767 Capt SDF Int'l: 5
757/767 FO SDF Int'l: 2

DC8 Capt: 10
DC8 FO: 14

A300 Capt: 11
A300 FO: 5

757/767 Capt MIA: 1
757/767 FO MIA: 1

Beagle_Lover 11-17-2006 03:10 PM

Will UPS put new hires into the -400?

Freight Dog 11-17-2006 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by Beagle_Lover (Post 81911)
Will UPS put new hires into the -400?

UPS places new-hires where there are openings or shortages in the system. If not enough FO's bid up to Anchorage on either the MD11 or 747-400F, then that's where new-hires will be sent. It's very possible that someone that flies -400s at, say, Polar or Atlas today could be flying the -400 at UPS in 2007, as UPS has been staffing the recent MD11 new-hire classes with pilots that have heavy jet time.

If the -400s and MD11s were all based in SDF, this all would not be the case. The fact that Anchorage is so far away makes it a very junior domicile-- regardless of what airplane is there.

This creates an advantage for those pilots who are flexible: 1. it allows a much faster upgrade to captain if you're chasing dollars, and 2. it allows anyone on the property within their first year to fly an all-glass widebody at UPS, even (perhaps) a brand new 747-400F.

Whaledriver 11-17-2006 03:45 PM

I've been told that there are a lot of Atlas and Polar folks being talked to by UPS. The guys that live in the ANC area of great interest to UPS.

Priority 3 11-18-2006 12:54 PM

UPS has been interviewing pilots who have no internal recommendation, so if you have equipment experience on an MD, 75, or -400- apply now!

CE750 11-18-2006 01:12 PM

does a guy with no recent flight time (2 years), and 4500TT 1800PIC Turb, and 3500 Turbine Multi in CRJ's Citations, and ATR's have a prayer?

And no connections to boot?

After reading my post, I think I may know what the answer is.. ;)

1800 RVR 11-18-2006 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by CE750 (Post 82249)
does a guy with no recent flight time (2 years), and 4500TT 1800PIC Turb, and 3500 Turbine Multi in CRJ's Citations, and ATR's have a prayer?

And no connections to boot?

After reading my post, I think I may know what the answer is.. ;)

What will it cost you to put your app in? Maybe 15 min. You'll never know if you don't try. UPS' interview process has no rhyme or reason to the casual observer. Not one single line pilot can tell you if you have a shot or not - because we DON'T KNOW! Good luck!

v2plus25 11-18-2006 03:18 PM

When does the bid close? I wonder if they'd award probie guys currently in training a vacancy? Guess you never know unless you've got the bid in there.

Busflyer 11-18-2006 05:45 PM

Bid
 
I believe the bid closes Dec. 1. UPS will put bodies wherever they are needed. Probation or not.

fdxmd11fo 11-19-2006 05:42 AM

Sounds like good times at UPS.

Precontact 11-19-2006 10:50 AM

new hire F/Es
 
Now that the company is allowing all probationary crewmembers to bid on this vacancy will we have any under age 60 F/Es after 1 Dec? Sounds like we'll be hiring many F/Es and F/Os for some time to come, especially if the Age 60 dies...

SaltyDog 11-19-2006 09:08 PM

Precontact,
Yes. A bunch of of the 60+ folks are pulling the plug at the end of January and will be short of S/O's causing newhires to be sent to DC-8 etc.
Likely will continue. Age 60 question may change a whole lot though. UPS lives day to day on these decisions (At least my perception after talking with the Training Schedulers for awhile now)

Freightpuppy 11-19-2006 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by CE750 (Post 82249)
does a guy with no recent flight time (2 years), and 4500TT 1800PIC Turb, and 3500 Turbine Multi in CRJ's Citations, and ATR's have a prayer?

And no connections to boot?

After reading my post, I think I may know what the answer is.. ;)

When it comes to interview/getting a job at UPS advice, I pretty much agree with all of 1800 RVR's posts.

767pilot 11-21-2006 05:52 PM


Originally Posted by fdxmd11fo (Post 82431)
Sounds like good times at UPS.

All our times here are good, except the ones that aren't;)

IslandBoy 11-21-2006 06:30 PM


Yes. A bunch of of the 60+ folks are pulling the plug at the end of January and will be short of S/O's causing newhires to be sent to DC-8 etc.
What exactly is causing the age 60+ folks to pull the plug? Does it have something to do with the new contract?

UPSFO4LIFE 11-22-2006 05:25 AM

YES! you can say that.

FlyingHigh 11-22-2006 07:22 AM

Originally Posted by UPSFO4LIFE http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/im...s/viewpost.gif
???????????

Curiosity is a good thing. And, if you're not JM, curiosity is also a fun thing. ;)

UPSFO4LIFE 11-22-2006 09:49 AM

I think you have been flying a bit too high if you know what I mean;)

FlyingHigh 11-22-2006 10:03 AM

Yes. I know exactly what you mean. I should take it down. No problem. Consider it done, dude. -- At least we are talking now, right? Grateful to this discussion board for making it possible. Happy Thanksgiving, JM! :D

FlyingHigh 11-23-2006 09:10 AM


Originally Posted by UPSFO4LIFE (Post 83632)
I think you have been flying a bit too high if you know what I mean;)

Barrel rolls around the space shuttle, baby! Oh, yeah.

You're so right, though. In order to really give your remarks the kind of careful attention they deserve, I mean -- in order to really discuss this properly and to help as many people as possible, meet me at the Ruth's Chris Steakhouse on top of the Kaden Tower!:D


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