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Old 02-27-2013, 02:24 PM
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Where do I go to find the rules/procedures for the sleep rooms. How are they assigned? When can you use them? Where do you go to get one assigned to you?

I know, I should have asked on IOE but I forgot and I can't find anything on PFC or in the FOM.
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Old 02-27-2013, 02:54 PM
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The sleep rooms are basically for airport standbys and hub turners. They are assigned on a first come first serve basis. There will be a receptionist that will assign you a room. You give up some form of id in exchange for a room key. You get your ID back when you check out. Be sure to call crew scheduling to let them know what room you are in if on an airport standby.
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Old 02-27-2013, 04:04 PM
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Do you have a child of 6 in a twin bed? You now have something in common. Can the great girls down in the sleep room call Flight Coord and say "we are full", and Flight Coord post a big ass sign instead of doing the FedEx version of the walk and bag drag of shame?
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Huck View Post


Two weeks ago.
Originally Posted by FDXLAG View Post
A bed, a plastic chair, a shelf, a hook, and the worlds most annoying ringing phones.

Regardless of the company studies on sleep the rooms will be a balmy 79 degrees in the summer to comply with company edict 47, so don't complain it is not our fault.
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And industrial flushing toilets that shake the walls when they flush
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Don't forget the folks in the next room that you can hear through the a/c vent talking on their cell phone ...
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The sleep rooms are basically for airport standbys and hub turners. They are assigned on a first come first serve basis. There will be a receptionist that will assign you a room. You give up some form of id in exchange for a room key. You get your ID back when you check out. Be sure to call crew scheduling to let them know what room you are in if on an airport standby.
All of the above are spot on as of 5 minutes ago...including the picture. Goodnight......
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Old 02-27-2013, 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyBoyd View Post
All of the above are spot on as of 5 minutes ago...including the picture. Goodnight......
Aww c'mon Boyd.. It can't be worse than Travis!!
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Old 02-28-2013, 06:37 AM
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Gentlemen (and ladies)-

FILE FATIGUE REPORTS!!!!!

The third-world situation in the AOC is ridiculous. People are going out and sleeping in their cars. UNSAT!

The complete and utter failure to have a transition plan during construction (and through peak) should have gotten somebody in hot water. This has been a complete failure.

I think the end result will be an improvement - if we can get there without an accident.

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Originally Posted by pipe View Post
Gentlemen (and ladies)-

FILE FATIGUE REPORTS!!!!!

The third-world situation in the AOC is ridiculous. People are going out and sleeping in their cars. UNSAT!

The complete and utter failure to have a transition plan during construction (and through peak) should have gotten somebody in hot water. This has been a complete failure.

I think the end result will be an improvement - if we can get there without an accident.

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Spot on Pipe. We will probably never know, but I wonder if our Denver, fender bender was in any way related to fatigue and our current hub rest situation.
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I guarantee fatigue was an issue in DEN. I also guarantee it won't be an issue in NTSB report.
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Old 02-28-2013, 10:12 AM
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Apparently things aren't all bad? This article says this is a pretty good place to work. I agree ...

FedEx Earns #10 Spot on FORTUNE

I say we give the company some slack on the sleep room issue, maybe even give them credit for actually recognizing that there weren't enough sleep rooms and doing something about it. Personally, I feel MUCH BETTER after a short hub-turn nap.
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I guarantee fatigue was an issue in DEN. I also guarantee it won't be an issue in NTSB report.
Certainly makes sense that fatigue was an issue. Professional pilots that have made thousands of landings error free...suddenly ding a tail? The MD-11 leaves little room for error making fatigue even more critical for Maddog pilots.

They were properly trained, demonstrated proficiency repeatedly, more than likely had a properly operating airplane. (even if it wasn't properly loaded - a rested, proficient crew should still handle that)

Why wouldn't fatigue make it into a report? We have no tools available to us to predict fatigue. We must use a seat-of-the-pants gouge to guess if we might be fatigued over the next X hours of expected work.
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