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Gunter 03-11-2013 09:36 AM

oh, nevermind

Born2AV8 03-11-2013 10:29 AM

Heard that the number of authorized open time requests has been reduced by more than 1/2. Yea yea I know that 100 open time requests in a 24 hour period may be excessive but it's all about access to VIPs anytime no matter what. Anyone hearing otherwise.

MaydayMark 03-11-2013 10:42 AM


Originally Posted by Born2AV8 (Post 1369628)
Heard that the number of authorized open time requests has been reduced by more than 1/2. Yea yea I know that 100 open time requests in a 24 hour period may be excessive but it's all about access to VIPs anytime no matter what. Anyone hearing otherwise.

As long as I'm inputting my Open Time requests manually (not using a BOT, not while I'm flying) are they permitted to limit our access to VIPS or do they have to give us unrestricted access? Enquiring minds want to know? :eek::eek::eek:

4A2B 03-11-2013 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 1369542)
With regards to my comment about CAPTCHA codes and whether the response should be supplied by a human or a program ...

I am not prohibited from storing my password and my eGrid on a secure computer. Therefore, if I open my laptop and click one button to log on the pilot.fedex.com automatically, I have violated no policy. They may have intended for me to read the CAPTCHA and look at my eGrid and enter three alpha-numeric characters manually, but if my program does it for me automatically, so be it. If they want to make a rule that requires me to enter it manually, that's another story.

I am also not advising that pilots access VIPS remotely. I am simply stating that The Company's claim that remote access is a problem is a fabrication on their part. It was never a problem before, and when done from secure computers now it should not pose a problem -- except that they're having bandwidth issues.

My bottom line is that we should be pushing back against The Company and not against each other.


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Roger that TC, and I agree wholeheartedly with you on the last sentence.

appDude 03-11-2013 11:21 AM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 1369542)

I am not prohibited from storing my password and my eGrid on a secure computer.

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Not true. It is the password to Company data and Company computers. They can (and have) specified how and where it can be stored. To maintain they can not specify that is naive. To tell others on this bulletin board that their policy does not apply to our group is risky.

appDude 03-11-2013 11:32 AM

The Company again hands the advantage to the rule breakers.
The 100 Open Time limit per day just makes it more valuable to have a group of guys sharing passwords and bribing schedulers.
This is in addition to the advantage they handed to the rule breakers with the 'baby' CAPTCHA for trip trades. (see previous post)
Maybe the schedulers were denied a cash raise, and the fact that this will make any scheduler leak even more valuable, has been added to their 'overall' compensation package?
And my apologies to the schedulers. The inside info may be coming from a different group all together. But some advance inside information is leaking from somewhere to a very select group. 'Scheduler' was used as a generic term for insider information.

PastV1 03-11-2013 12:55 PM

Have no fear fellow pilots, the company will fix all these trip trade problems and make life better for you. Read openers.... PIBS...... :(

FlyByNyte 03-11-2013 01:47 PM

The CBA says, "pilots SHALL have access to open time." It does not limit it.

Kipper 03-11-2013 01:49 PM

I have been blocked out of VIPS before. I have no idea what a bot is or how to get one. I was obsessing about my calendar around the holidays with family plans hinging on my schedule and so I kept checking not sure when it was officially going to be posted. Wasn't even checking open time. Every time I walked by the computer, I hit refresh just thinking it would post any second and then bam, access denied because I exceeded the daily allowance. Don't remember what the number was, but it was not even related to open time. Was just trying to check my own schedule, not trying to pick up at trip at all. Just did it the slow, old fashioned way, but I guess too many times in a short period of time.

FrankTheTank 03-11-2013 02:04 PM


Originally Posted by Kipper (Post 1369770)
I have been blocked out of VIPS before. I have no idea what a bot is or how to get one. I was obsessing about my calendar around the holidays with family plans hinging on my schedule and so I kept checking not sure when it was officially going to be posted. Wasn't even checking open time. Every time I walked by the computer, I hit refresh just thinking it would post any second and then bam, access denied because I exceeded the daily allowance. Don't remember what the number was, but it was not even related to open time. Was just trying to check my own schedule, not trying to pick up at trip at all. Just did it the slow, old fashioned way, but I guess too many times in a short period of time.

Same thing happened to me in December. Was just trying to get my trip trade "Approved/Disapproved" so kept checking open time in case it was not approved. Got the locked out so who knows how long the crew notification took since I didn't log back in till the next day.. Ridiculous! And antiquated!


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