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Old 04-03-2013, 10:46 AM
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Back when i was hauling material in and out of the sandbox we were able to fit 4 JCABS in a 747 along with 17 MMBFS4's and we also took many pics of this load out. Only thing we couldn't fit were a few of the JPPR's.
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Disregard...........
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Old 04-26-2013, 12:26 PM
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With the visor up, the entry on the C-5 is ceiling to floor, wall o wall--about a 17' square with a drive in ramp. Fold the blades and H-53s went in.

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Almost. We had to take the main gearbox off, put it and the main blades inside, then gently work the MH-53 into the C-5. It took about 18 hours to prep, and another 18 to put it back together for an FCF. This was the Air Force 53's and not the larger "E" models the Marines fly. 60's were fold and go.
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Old 04-29-2013, 06:17 PM
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Why is an AN-24 hauling a US helicopter when US cargo pilots are furloughed?
Pilot to Co-Pilot: “Haven’t We Been Here Before?” “Da…” | TIME.com
"Soldiers from 2nd Squadron, 17th Cavalry Regiment ensure safe conduct while loading an OH-58D Kiowa Warrior helicopter onto a Russian Antonov AN-124 cargo plane at Bagram Airfield, Feb. 8."

For you furloughed guys, I'm dissapointed to see this and hope you all are back to work soon.
I agree with you 100% there is no reason acceptable enough to be giving away hundreds of millions, possibly over a billion dollars a year to the Russians and Ukranians. I know what the reasons are, and like I said they are not acceptable to me.

There is a person I know of who has been unsuccessfully trying to get a trio of mothballed C5 and/or new C17 aircraft to begin operating the austere and oversize market.

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Old 05-01-2013, 01:13 PM
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I agree with you 100% there is no reason acceptable enough to be giving away hundreds of millions, possibly over a billion dollars a year to the Russians and Ukranians. I know what the reasons are, and like I said they are not acceptable to me.

There is a person I know of who has been unsuccessfully trying to get a trio of mothballed C5 and/or new C17 aircraft to begin operating the austere and oversize market.

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How economically feasible is that? Anecdotally I've heard that those military aircraft would be very hard to operate economically in the civilian market.
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Old 05-01-2013, 02:20 PM
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The C-17 was FAA-cert'd, I believe. The C-5 never was and probably never could be, based on PERF A alone, never mind emergency escape, tech manuals, etc.

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Old 05-01-2013, 03:03 PM
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Lockheed certified the C-141, there are still some folks running around with L-300 types. Douglas floated the idea of a civil C-17 but no one bit. Can't find a type data sheet under Douglas or Boeing so I'm guessing they were never certified.
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Old 05-01-2013, 03:31 PM
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I remember reading an Aviation Week article (around 1998?) discussing how McDonnell Douglas was giving FedEx the hard sell on a civilian version of the C-17. It would have reduced the military price/aircraft. DOD even offered to enhance the deal with guaranteed military charters ... FedEx didn't bite
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World had told the military at one time that we would take all ten. It was an extremely convoluted deal. It surprised nobody when it fell through. The final nail in the coffin for the BC-17 was when the military ordered more and foreign orders came in the kep the production line open.
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I agree with you 100% there is no reason acceptable enough to be giving away hundreds of millions, possibly over a billion dollars a year to the Russians and Ukranians.
First we should save money and use the lowest bidder, then we should spend more money and fly them with military aircraft and crews, ugg, I just get so confused!!
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