Hkg: Siba europe
04-20-2013, 01:30 AM
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Hkg: Siba europe
Doesn't anyone find it interesting that the company states:
"With much interest in HKG crew positions, and to the extent that the interest in HKG continues, we are planning on awarding additional crew positions in HKG. Further details will be forthcoming following the bid award".
What if everyone put 777 Capt Mem on there standing bid, would the company say the same thing?
"With much interest in the Mem 777 crew positions, we are planning on awarding additional crew positions in Mem. Bid what you want to fly!
There must have been a bunch of guys bidding HKG Capt, which would of generated addition passover pay. Today there are 37 guys on the Virtual training letter, and only the top 5 of those guys made it to the award.
Interesting times. Looks like I am bidding HKG, and looking forward to double DH to Europe
"With much interest in HKG crew positions, and to the extent that the interest in HKG continues, we are planning on awarding additional crew positions in HKG. Further details will be forthcoming following the bid award".
What if everyone put 777 Capt Mem on there standing bid, would the company say the same thing?
"With much interest in the Mem 777 crew positions, we are planning on awarding additional crew positions in Mem. Bid what you want to fly!
There must have been a bunch of guys bidding HKG Capt, which would of generated addition passover pay. Today there are 37 guys on the Virtual training letter, and only the top 5 of those guys made it to the award.
Interesting times. Looks like I am bidding HKG, and looking forward to double DH to Europe
04-20-2013, 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Fedex
Doesn't anyone find it interesting that the company states:
"With much interest in HKG crew positions, and to the extent that the interest in HKG continues, we are planning on awarding additional crew positions in HKG. Further details will be forthcoming following the bid award".
What if everyone put 777 Capt Mem on there standing bid, would the company say the same thing?
"With much interest in the Mem 777 crew positions, we are planning on awarding additional crew positions in Mem. Bid what you want to fly!
There must have been a bunch of guys bidding HKG Capt, which would of generated addition passover pay. Today there are 37 guys on the Virtual training letter, and only the top 5 of those guys made it to the award.
Interesting times. Looks like I am bidding HKG, and looking forward to double DH to Europe
"With much interest in HKG crew positions, and to the extent that the interest in HKG continues, we are planning on awarding additional crew positions in HKG. Further details will be forthcoming following the bid award".
What if everyone put 777 Capt Mem on there standing bid, would the company say the same thing?
"With much interest in the Mem 777 crew positions, we are planning on awarding additional crew positions in Mem. Bid what you want to fly!
There must have been a bunch of guys bidding HKG Capt, which would of generated addition passover pay. Today there are 37 guys on the Virtual training letter, and only the top 5 of those guys made it to the award.
Interesting times. Looks like I am bidding HKG, and looking forward to double DH to Europe
04-20-2013, 04:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Fedex
Doesn't anyone find it interesting that the company states:
"With much interest in HKG crew positions, and to the extent that the interest in HKG continues, we are planning on awarding additional crew positions in HKG. Further details will be forthcoming following the bid award".
What if everyone put 777 Capt Mem on there standing bid, would the company say the same thing?
"With much interest in the Mem 777 crew positions, we are planning on awarding additional crew positions in Mem. Bid what you want to fly!
There must have been a bunch of guys bidding HKG Capt, which would of generated addition passover pay. Today there are 37 guys on the Virtual training letter, and only the top 5 of those guys made it to the award.
Interesting times. Looks like I am bidding HKG, and looking forward to double DH to Europe
"With much interest in HKG crew positions, and to the extent that the interest in HKG continues, we are planning on awarding additional crew positions in HKG. Further details will be forthcoming following the bid award".
What if everyone put 777 Capt Mem on there standing bid, would the company say the same thing?
"With much interest in the Mem 777 crew positions, we are planning on awarding additional crew positions in Mem. Bid what you want to fly!
There must have been a bunch of guys bidding HKG Capt, which would of generated addition passover pay. Today there are 37 guys on the Virtual training letter, and only the top 5 of those guys made it to the award.
Interesting times. Looks like I am bidding HKG, and looking forward to double DH to Europe
04-20-2013, 04:29 AM
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Yep......it is about double the cost to dead head someone from HKG versus MEM. Seems like if they were going to add flying to Europe via BOM or DXB they would have to add a lot of folks over here....
But I am not too worried......it will go very senior!!
But I am not too worried......it will go very senior!!
04-20-2013, 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by matty
Where does one find this mystical and magical FEPP list?
After that page loads, scroll down and you'll see the FEPP information on the left.
04-23-2013, 09:11 AM
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Finally had a chance to sit and look at A300 MEM bidpack. 20 lines of DDH Europe flying as it currently is constructed, however, the Bid FCIF indicates the CDG standby is about to go away. So--18 lines perhaps?
If they go forward with that plan to move Europe flying to the HKG group, I would think the HKG bidpack would probably be about the best flying in the system. I'm sure the optimizer could find ways to make it worse, but the SE asia flying mixed in with the occasional Europe trip sounds like fun. The company builds the pairings, but the SIG builds the lines. I suspect many of those lines would be reasonably commutable.
The interesting thing to me will be what will happen when the last guy on the captains list--maybe 2005 hire?--bids reserve to conflict with training and cherry picks out a nice European DDH line out of phase in conflict. The reportedly "best" flying the in system will be done that month by young HKG captain, while the 1985 hire is hub turning through Indy or (maybe if we keep the mail) doing a 2 leg day turn through Memphis.
Very interesting times. I wonder now if offering $2300 housing allowance for a handful of pilots seems like a cost good savings plan? I wonder if the senior A300 guys who voted "yes" on the first LOA because "it would never affect them" still feel that way? I'm not pointing that out to pick a fight or rub salt in anyone's wounds, but rather that the failure to look at contract changes as something that affects all of us can sneak back up and have unintended consequences. I wondered on past excess bids if the SIBA through HKG might be an option. It appears for now like it just might be...
If they go forward with that plan to move Europe flying to the HKG group, I would think the HKG bidpack would probably be about the best flying in the system. I'm sure the optimizer could find ways to make it worse, but the SE asia flying mixed in with the occasional Europe trip sounds like fun. The company builds the pairings, but the SIG builds the lines. I suspect many of those lines would be reasonably commutable.
The interesting thing to me will be what will happen when the last guy on the captains list--maybe 2005 hire?--bids reserve to conflict with training and cherry picks out a nice European DDH line out of phase in conflict. The reportedly "best" flying the in system will be done that month by young HKG captain, while the 1985 hire is hub turning through Indy or (maybe if we keep the mail) doing a 2 leg day turn through Memphis.
Very interesting times. I wonder now if offering $2300 housing allowance for a handful of pilots seems like a cost good savings plan? I wonder if the senior A300 guys who voted "yes" on the first LOA because "it would never affect them" still feel that way? I'm not pointing that out to pick a fight or rub salt in anyone's wounds, but rather that the failure to look at contract changes as something that affects all of us can sneak back up and have unintended consequences. I wondered on past excess bids if the SIBA through HKG might be an option. It appears for now like it just might be...
04-23-2013, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Albief15
Finally had a chance to sit and look at A300 MEM bidpack. 20 lines of DDH Europe flying as it currently is constructed, however, the Bid FCIF indicates the CDG standby is about to go away. So--18 lines perhaps?
If they go forward with that plan to move Europe flying to the HKG group, I would think the HKG bidpack would probably be about the best flying in the system. I'm sure the optimizer could find ways to make it worse, but the SE asia flying mixed in with the occasional Europe trip sounds like fun. The company builds the pairings, but the SIG builds the lines. I suspect many of those lines would be reasonably commutable.
The interesting thing to me will be what will happen when the last guy on the captains list--maybe 2005 hire?--bids reserve to conflict with training and cherry picks out a nice European DDH line out of phase in conflict. The reportedly "best" flying the in system will be done that month by young HKG captain, while the 1985 hire is hub turning through Indy or (maybe if we keep the mail) doing a 2 leg day turn through Memphis.
Very interesting times. I wonder now if offering $2300 housing allowance for a handful of pilots seems like a cost good savings plan? I wonder if the senior A300 guys who voted "yes" on the first LOA because "it would never affect them" still feel that way? I'm not pointing that out to pick a fight or rub salt in anyone's wounds, but rather that the failure to look at contract changes as something that affects all of us can sneak back up and have unintended consequences. I wondered on past excess bids if the SIBA through HKG might be an option. It appears for now like it just might be...
If they go forward with that plan to move Europe flying to the HKG group, I would think the HKG bidpack would probably be about the best flying in the system. I'm sure the optimizer could find ways to make it worse, but the SE asia flying mixed in with the occasional Europe trip sounds like fun. The company builds the pairings, but the SIG builds the lines. I suspect many of those lines would be reasonably commutable.
The interesting thing to me will be what will happen when the last guy on the captains list--maybe 2005 hire?--bids reserve to conflict with training and cherry picks out a nice European DDH line out of phase in conflict. The reportedly "best" flying the in system will be done that month by young HKG captain, while the 1985 hire is hub turning through Indy or (maybe if we keep the mail) doing a 2 leg day turn through Memphis.
Very interesting times. I wonder now if offering $2300 housing allowance for a handful of pilots seems like a cost good savings plan? I wonder if the senior A300 guys who voted "yes" on the first LOA because "it would never affect them" still feel that way? I'm not pointing that out to pick a fight or rub salt in anyone's wounds, but rather that the failure to look at contract changes as something that affects all of us can sneak back up and have unintended consequences. I wondered on past excess bids if the SIBA through HKG might be an option. It appears for now like it just might be...
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