UPS Blows
The humor is appreciated.
04-25-2013, 04:48 PM
#23
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Joined APC: Oct 2005
Position: Brown
Posts: 1,126
Originally Posted by chignutsak
As a former loader and driver, GFYS!! Don't equate us hard-working folk with those corporate d-bags!
04-26-2013, 06:39 AM
#26
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Joined APC: Sep 2009
Position: Left seat of a Jet
Posts: 514
Originally Posted by Commando
This is like a bad dream. UPS management is run by Boxheads. The corner office in Atlanta is full of loaders and Drivers who went to Brown University. People with real Sheep Skins run circles around them.
The IPA is 0 for 6 for any good news. DHL, Cargo Cutout, 32 and 7, TNT, USPS, NURPS, and finally STAR. Oh yea, add in IST flying.
What a Joke this place is. The IPA needs to force STAR out and the IST flying back. I don't see 15 767's on the Ramp in Paris doing FDX flying. Purple flies to Dublin, IST, TLV, Athens, etc, etc. This is what is killing the IPA and upward movement.
And the IPA needs to go to Federal Court for the NURPS. Not some lame Card Drive! Go to Northern Virginia and go to a Labor Court and File. Closed Shop, NURPS are not management, doing the Line pilots Job, etc.
Let the Judge hear the Brief. Let UPS file their Brief. Let the Federal Labor Judge go sit on it for 6 months. Get the Decision. Done.
The Card Drive was a Joke angle to get the NURPS out. It has to be a Court injuction. The IPA may lose. But so what if they do. It's status quo.
And I believe the IPA would Win in Court.
Not to mention the 32-7 we are still waiting on. And the Cargo Cutout issue.
And don't forget their First Class Travel while we sit in the back of a cold dirty Freighter.
lol-
The IPA is 0 for 6 for any good news. DHL, Cargo Cutout, 32 and 7, TNT, USPS, NURPS, and finally STAR. Oh yea, add in IST flying.
What a Joke this place is. The IPA needs to force STAR out and the IST flying back. I don't see 15 767's on the Ramp in Paris doing FDX flying. Purple flies to Dublin, IST, TLV, Athens, etc, etc. This is what is killing the IPA and upward movement.
And the IPA needs to go to Federal Court for the NURPS. Not some lame Card Drive! Go to Northern Virginia and go to a Labor Court and File. Closed Shop, NURPS are not management, doing the Line pilots Job, etc.
Let the Judge hear the Brief. Let UPS file their Brief. Let the Federal Labor Judge go sit on it for 6 months. Get the Decision. Done.
The Card Drive was a Joke angle to get the NURPS out. It has to be a Court injuction. The IPA may lose. But so what if they do. It's status quo.
And I believe the IPA would Win in Court.
Not to mention the 32-7 we are still waiting on. And the Cargo Cutout issue.
And don't forget their First Class Travel while we sit in the back of a cold dirty Freighter.
lol-
I don't know what to tell you except my impressions of UPS air operations were not warm and fuzzy during the early 90's in which I was offered a job in their maintenance operations. I decided not to take the position because UPS had no vision which way the air operation unit was going up to and including getting rid of it. You're right in one aspect, if you're part of the trucking division you will feel the love from brown. UPS appeared to be happier about their air operations when it was a contract operation.
04-26-2013, 06:50 AM
#27
Line Holder
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Posts: 75
This Blows?
Monthly guarantee: 81 hours*
Reserve guarantee: 81 hours*
(*75 hours per 28 days, converted to calendar month)
Int'l override pay/hr:
Capt/IRO/FO:
$6.50/$4.50/$4.50
Discounted Employee Stock Purchase Program (DESPP) offers 5% discount
Per Diem :
$2.45/hr (dom)
$3.20/hr (int'l)*
$3.60/hr (Asia)*
$3.20/hr (Europe)*
Monthly guarantee: 81 hours*
Reserve guarantee: 81 hours*
(*75 hours per 28 days, converted to calendar month)
Int'l override pay/hr:
Capt/IRO/FO:
$6.50/$4.50/$4.50
Discounted Employee Stock Purchase Program (DESPP) offers 5% discount
Per Diem :
$2.45/hr (dom)
$3.20/hr (int'l)*
$3.60/hr (Asia)*
$3.20/hr (Europe)*
04-26-2013, 07:10 AM
#28
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Joined APC: May 2006
Position: B-747-400 FO
Posts: 354
Originally Posted by bozobigtop
I don't know what to tell you except my impressions of UPS air operations were not warm and fuzzy during the early 90's in which I was offered a job in their maintenance operations. I decided not to take the position because UPS had no vision which way the air operation unit was going up to and including getting rid of it. You're right in one aspect, if you're part of the trucking division you will feel the love from brown. UPS appeared to be happier about their air operations when it was a contract operation.
04-26-2013, 01:33 PM
#29
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Joined APC: May 2006
Position: DC-8 756/767
Posts: 1,143
Originally Posted by Rocket Bob
They still have no vision of air operations. Their lack of interest in the air side has me concerned that we may be headed back to contractors. If it saves them more than $50 a year, they will do it.
Last edited by UPSFO4LIFE; 04-26-2013 at 01:44 PM.
04-26-2013, 02:46 PM
#30
Tri-tanic operator
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: Doggie
Posts: 2,382
Originally Posted by UPSFO4LIFE
Too bad the FAA won't allow that. On a side note, we are already contractors. UPS contracts with the IPA.
Like the dozens of regionals that operate under a mainline name ?
Like the FAA that allows cargo pilots different rest requirements ?
UPS will figure out a way to exercise control without "operational" control ... money talks
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