Worst Cargo Airlines to fly for (Pay,QOL,ETC)
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First year pay At SkyLease is $42,170.40, so maybe he has some child support issues that he didn't bring up. From there posted seniority list there are no first year first officers left. The pay is low but there will always be a pile of applications. Now lets sit back and see how bad FedEx and UPS have it.
#172
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
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I believe that regardless of those who say that the only thing that matters in a job is the paycheck, and that they don't go to work to get attaboys, or BZ's, or friendship, or love, or respect, etc, everyone wants their workplace and the company they work for to: 1) value them as an employee; 2) value their opinion and listen when they have something to say; 3) provide a clean, safe, non-adversarial environment in which they can grow as an employee, and feel that their contribution both benefits the company and is noticed by their employer. 4) there's a number of other things that go into making a company a good one to work for.
That said, and from a lot of personal experience and observation, I believe that if the employee feels that the above "needs" are being met, then they would be less inclined to demand more in the way of pay and other benefits. Of course parity with others in the specific industry, doing like work comes into play, but assuming one is making a reasonable wage and benefit package for the occupation involved in, and at the same time they feel good about their company, and their company is treating them well, they would be much more content than someone who feels that their company doesn't appreciate them, and treats them badly. I firmly believe that's why many of the guys at UPS feel that they are working for a lousy company. It's not always only about the money. However, if everything else is lousy and change for the better is not on the horizon, than it's all about the money to offset all the bad stuff.
That said, and from a lot of personal experience and observation, I believe that if the employee feels that the above "needs" are being met, then they would be less inclined to demand more in the way of pay and other benefits. Of course parity with others in the specific industry, doing like work comes into play, but assuming one is making a reasonable wage and benefit package for the occupation involved in, and at the same time they feel good about their company, and their company is treating them well, they would be much more content than someone who feels that their company doesn't appreciate them, and treats them badly. I firmly believe that's why many of the guys at UPS feel that they are working for a lousy company. It's not always only about the money. However, if everything else is lousy and change for the better is not on the horizon, than it's all about the money to offset all the bad stuff.
#173
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Joined APC: Jan 2009
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1111,
You obviously didn't understand what I wrote in my post as I said I had nothing but respect for our veterans. And I appreciate the lesson on Forward Air Controllers. Were you a FAC or served in Afghanistan? If so, that's really cool and I know every one on here appreciates your sacrifice, especially me. Remember I am the one who defended the Decorated Veteran former D.O. Of USAJet from the UPS pilot who just assumed he was better than all other forms of freight trash, and if you aint't UPS, you ain't....
For the record, I compared the life of ONE retired military pilot (Not a FAC, a C141 driver) from the Waterford Place crashpad in 1999 to hooking up with Christy Brinkley (Imperfect, but still COMPARATIVELY beautiful) to flying at UPS, where Christy was HIS only reference. He didn't know Rosanne even existed when he left UPS. Again, not a bad guy justa guy that would be in Ghana, complaining about the drinking water in America to kids drinking dirty water out of a filthy, polluted stream. Delightfully obtuse and clueless, much like the UPS pilots here that consider UPS the worst pay, QOL, etc. out there. It's hilarious, really!
So let's get back to the title of this thread, and how UPS is the worst cargo airline to fly for with regad to pay, benefits, QOL, etc. Logic defies this entire thread which was about crappy cargo carriers, not legacy carriers with mean Management and FQS's. This is fascinating.... Where's Salty Dog when you need him? Lol...
You obviously didn't understand what I wrote in my post as I said I had nothing but respect for our veterans. And I appreciate the lesson on Forward Air Controllers. Were you a FAC or served in Afghanistan? If so, that's really cool and I know every one on here appreciates your sacrifice, especially me. Remember I am the one who defended the Decorated Veteran former D.O. Of USAJet from the UPS pilot who just assumed he was better than all other forms of freight trash, and if you aint't UPS, you ain't....
For the record, I compared the life of ONE retired military pilot (Not a FAC, a C141 driver) from the Waterford Place crashpad in 1999 to hooking up with Christy Brinkley (Imperfect, but still COMPARATIVELY beautiful) to flying at UPS, where Christy was HIS only reference. He didn't know Rosanne even existed when he left UPS. Again, not a bad guy justa guy that would be in Ghana, complaining about the drinking water in America to kids drinking dirty water out of a filthy, polluted stream. Delightfully obtuse and clueless, much like the UPS pilots here that consider UPS the worst pay, QOL, etc. out there. It's hilarious, really!
So let's get back to the title of this thread, and how UPS is the worst cargo airline to fly for with regad to pay, benefits, QOL, etc. Logic defies this entire thread which was about crappy cargo carriers, not legacy carriers with mean Management and FQS's. This is fascinating.... Where's Salty Dog when you need him? Lol...
my point was in regards to the thread creep....not the topic
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