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05-16-2013, 01:15 PM

#11

Jetjok

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Originally Posted by Busboy

Wait...So...You were a thief?

No. I was someone who came from a company which treated their employees with dignity and respect and was so disheartened by that particular speech that I knew at that moment that UPS was not my kind of place. And over the next year or so, realized my first impression was spot on.

05-16-2013, 01:49 PM

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Lineslug

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Originally Posted by Jetjok

I knew at that moment that UPS was not my kind of place.

LOL. I remember during that same timeframe, (April '90) they (UPS) took our DC-8 newhire class out to the ramp to see some of the airplanes. One guy who had been flying pax charters for some outfit previously took one look at our DC-8 lav and quit on the spot. I kid you not. Guess he knew what he wanted, or didn't want right then and there.

05-16-2013, 01:59 PM

#13

V1VR

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Originally Posted by Lineslug

LOL. I remember during that same timeframe, they (UPS)took our DC-8 newhire class out to the ramp to see some of the airplanes. One guy who had been flying pax charters for some outfit previously took one look at our DC-8 lav and quit on the spot. I kid you not. Guess he knew what he wanted, or didn't want right then and there.

Ha! I remember the same feeling after leaving TWA for FedEx. It was just odd to see no seats but just a beat up hull. But I stuck with it and 22 years later I'm still feeling I got lucky. As far as flying freighters, (and as a former truck driver) if I was stuck on the ground, I'd rather be in a Peterbilt than a Greyhound.

05-16-2013, 02:07 PM

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Coto Pilot

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Thanks for the replies. I started at UPS in 1990 as well and left after a few weeks to return to my previous job. Now I find myself on the bottom of the United list after all these years. Is the union still the in house one?

05-16-2013, 03:33 PM

#15

highsky

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It's true. We get paid exclusively by years of service, and the number of stripes on your sleeve. We do not have "Differences" Pay, like most all other pilots have.

Differences pay sucks if you are junior. In the UPS/IPA CBA, we have more pilots getting well compensated, versus only a few guys flying the big iron.

All out of due respect to our furloughed brothers, whom aren't being compensated dick.

05-16-2013, 04:02 PM

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buggs

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I'm coming up on six years at UPS, and still haven't had a year of full Pay. New hire pay, RDG, Layoff..... If I still have a job in July, it will be the first year.

05-17-2013, 04:21 PM

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Section Eight

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Originally Posted by buggs

I'm coming up on six years at UPS, and still haven't had a year of full Pay. New hire pay, RDG, Layoff..... If I still have a job in July, it will be the first year.

A little thread creep sorry....

Buggs, I hear ya, but lets not forget you are employed.

And the purpose of this thread was???? APC publishes the pay rates on their website. Seat and Seniority, and those are not synonymous with longevity.

Coming on THREE YEARS!

Carry on..........

05-17-2013, 04:51 PM

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Lineslug

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Originally Posted by Coto Pilot

Yes it is, the IPA (Independent Pilots Association). The best thing we ever did was breaking off from the Teamsters and forming our own in-house union. It's what makes working for UPS tolerable.