I need to borrow that one, that's good.

There is a story (probably urban legend) of a pilot who did just that. After the full-on junk jiggle, he proceeded to his gate in disgust, took the crash axe from his jet, returned to the unsecured side, and attempted entry.

Sirens whoop, SWAT bursts out of the ceiling. The pilot calmly states, "THIS crash axe and MY warm body needs to be in THAT airplane before we can move 1 foot. Deal with it."

I'd like to think it's true.

Project 100,000 was initiated in 1966 during the Viet Nam War to provide training and opportunity to the uneducated and poor. These persons were classified as “New Standards Men” (or the Moron Corps). This group included those unable to speak English, low aptitude, physical impairments and were referred to as McNamarah Soldiers … today's TSA.

Nakazawa

That's not the way it works. They're trained and equipped to scan your boarding pass. TSA precheck status is embedded in it if the airline and airport are participants.

It really happened.
I know a guy who did it.

No such thing
There is a Global Entry ID card and it is only good for land crossing station, not at the airport.
The ID card has nothing to do with pre-check.

Not a true statement Dude.

Current members of U.S. Customs and Border Protection’s (CBP) Global Entry, SENTRI or NEXUS programs are already eligible to participate in TSA Pre✓™ if they are flying on a participating airline at a participating airport. Those passengers need to place their PASS ID in the ‘Known Traveler Number’ field while booking their reservation. Interested passengers who are not eligible through their airline and are not already a member of a CBP Trusted Traveler program may still be able to opt-in to TSA Pre✓™ by applying for one of the CBP Trusted Traveler programs. To learn more visit: globalentry.gov.

let me clarify a point; when I went through ONT airport as a passenger, knowing they are/were not a pre-check airport, I still had to present an ID. I presented my Gov't issued ID( Global Entry) and the Folks did not know what it was. You'd think the TSA would have some schooling on what were the acceptable forms of Gov't ID.Especially since it was a card issued by one of their programs.

Without naming names, where did it happen, and who was the carrier? I'd shake his hand and buy him a beer!

I believe it was either an TWA/American guy in OMA if I am thinking of the same story. Funny as hell, but I think he got in big trouble.

I don't remember what city it was but he worked for Air Atlanta at the time.

I have heard of another incident and I think it was at AA.

That doesn't surprise me in the least bit.

It is an ID card? I got Global Entry a few years ago and it is associated with my passport, i.e. no card. I'm sure things have changed some but are they really giving out ID's with photos on them for Global Entry?

What are the odds she'll pass the interview? ;)

You have to pay for it.
I think it was an extra $15.

Again, the ID card has nothing to do with pre-check.
If you look on the back of the ID it has to do with Sentri and Ready Lane.
As the OP said, TSA had no clue what the ID was.

If you look on the back of the ID it has to do with Sentri and Ready Lane.

Whatever Dude, if you can't read what I pasted and understand how it relates to PreCheck find a sixth grader to do it for you.

Ladies and Gentleman, if I may put in my two cents here, I don't want to worry about what airline I'm flying on and are they part of tsa precheck, or if the airport has heard of said program. My question is why isn't every airport equiped with a laptop to support Known Crewmember? And why is it left to an individual airline to pay for its crewmembers to be a part of it? I mean, the agents are there, the laptop is there, why can't FedEx go through? Because Fred said 'no'? We all need to push very hard to have one level of Known Crewmember for all of us, just like one level of safety, and with ALPA leading the way, its a matter of time before it becomes a reality. That last sentence was meant to be sarcastic.

See post #55

This is true. You use this ID card to cross the border (by car or foot) between Mexico or Canada into the USA. You use it instead of a passport.

Archie and the Dude;

Ya'll gotta get a new ....................job?

I have been doing int'l d/h's as a pax for way toooo looong.
At least one per month.
Almost 10 yrs now.
Getting sick of it actually.

Hey Wally Im on board with that but it seems a bit of a pipe dream. We dont even have the same level of safety! Check work/rest rules for 121 supp. compared to the rest. We haul alot of heros and I would love to ask the morons who wrote this rule if our heros derserve the same rested pilot as a person who paid a ticket. That can of worms has already been hashed over but Im just saying.

Ya hit the ball out of the park on this one Ultra. This is a concept that apparently escaped all the lawmakers and financially responsible businessmen out there. Maybe they should all go do a year deployed...and for the ones who have done one, do a year refresher deployment. (Not on a staff either) Movement to contact and all that fun stuff... Then if they make it through the deployment and they drag their tired a$$ (which won't be as fat anymore) onto the A/C, they can wonder about the outcome of the flight home.

I heard the same thing. But why should he get in trouble? Probably for publicly disclosing the clown act that is the TSA and their policies relative to crew members.

Otherwise, what laws did he violate? Attempting to sneak a deadly weapon past security? The same one that MUST be in the cockpit? :confused:

Both of you, it seems, are simply misunderstanding each other. Thedude is saying that the ID itself has nothing to do with checking in with PreCheck at the airport and he is correct. However, the number on the back of the ID is used to enter in the participating airlines' websites and that's where you, USMcFDX, are misunderstanding. Read your own quote. It says nothing about having the ID to show at the airport to access the PreCheck lane.


P.S. I tried to get my sixth grader to type this, but she said that this was boring her.:D

Probably one about removing equipment from an aircraft.

Actually, I only wear my uniform going to and from work, I wear cruise pajamas and slippers when I fly!