FDX Jumpseats
06-05-2013, 07:17 AM
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FDX Jumpseats
What am I missing here? If a crew member wants the cockpit J/S, they have to contact me before they can book it. Why isn't jumpseats applying the same rule for non-crewmember (MX, Dispatch, etc.)? How am I supposed to know who has booked a J/S at anytime prior to getting my FPR?
06-05-2013, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by MX727
What am I missing here? If a crew member wants the cockpit J/S, they have to contact me before they can book it. Why isn't jumpseats applying the same rule for non-crewmember (MX, Dispatch, etc.)? How am I supposed to know who has booked a J/S at anytime prior to getting my FPR?
I'm not saying this is a good way to handle a cockpit jumpseat given the way our system is set up. Obviously he wouldn't be "confirmed" on the jumpseat without contacting you ahead of time and would be at risk of being beaten out for the same seat by someone who jumped through the hoops and got your permission ahead of time.
06-05-2013, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Huck
We ask for permission from the captain beforehand if it's over 4 hours, or if the seats are only in the cockpit, right?
JS admin will book in the cockpit except for the ironing board. The 4 hour thing is in the FOM but jumpseat says that is only for international and is only a guide. So when someone is calling for capt permission, it is the international thing or release of the last cockpit seat. The new change will limit our seats a great deal.
06-05-2013, 01:21 PM
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Why isn't jumpseats applying the same rule for non-crewmember (MX, Dispatch, etc.)?
At other airlines I've worked at allowing them to ride was the norm. At lower priority than pilots (for leisure).
I always enjoyed having those folks up front. Get their perspective on things.
Often a bit enlightening.
Of course the Captain should still have the ultimate say if they go or not.
06-05-2013, 01:29 PM
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I usually try and get the Captains permission because if they do a tail swap to an MD-11 sleeper it is the first 2 who have Capt's permission not who signed up first. Doesn't seem far but that's how J/S Admin is managing the system. Down side is once you have Capt's permission you can't cancel on the web you have to call J/S admin.
06-05-2013, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by IslanderDriver
Will that many MX, or Dispatch guys really be riding?
At other airlines I've worked at allowing them to ride was the norm. At lower priority than pilots (for leisure).
I always enjoyed having those folks up front. Get their perspective on things.
Often a bit enlightening.
Of course the Captain should still have the ultimate say if they go or not.
At other airlines I've worked at allowing them to ride was the norm. At lower priority than pilots (for leisure).
I always enjoyed having those folks up front. Get their perspective on things.
Often a bit enlightening.
Of course the Captain should still have the ultimate say if they go or not.
06-05-2013, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by IslanderDriver
Will that many MX, or Dispatch guys really be riding?
At other airlines I've worked at allowing them to ride was the norm. At lower priority than pilots (for leisure).
I always enjoyed having those folks up front. Get their perspective on things.
Often a bit enlightening.
Of course the Captain should still have the ultimate say if they go or not.
At other airlines I've worked at allowing them to ride was the norm. At lower priority than pilots (for leisure).
I always enjoyed having those folks up front. Get their perspective on things.
Often a bit enlightening.
Of course the Captain should still have the ultimate say if they go or not.
06-05-2013, 02:30 PM
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Actually MX was only able to book outside the cockpit jumpseats so the 777 and 727 and soon to be 767 was not available to them they just now allowed MX to book cockpit jumpseats as of June 1st and they can't book that online they have to call jumpseat to book cockpit. Was a pain because if a cockpit door or supernemerary seat was on MEL the mechanic was bumped and SOL to find another way to home since he couldn't ride up front now at least they have an option if this happens maybe the newly added MX being allowed in the flight deck is the reason for confusion in regards to jumpseat. There is an FCIF on it.
Last edited by Stratosphere; 06-05-2013 at 02:43 PM.
06-05-2013, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Pakagecheck
Actually,
JS admin will book in the cockpit except for the ironing board. The 4 hour thing is in the FOM but jumpseat says that is only for international and is only a guide. So when someone is calling for capt permission, it is the international thing or release of the last cockpit seat. The new change will limit our seats a great deal.
JS admin will book in the cockpit except for the ironing board. The 4 hour thing is in the FOM but jumpseat says that is only for international and is only a guide. So when someone is calling for capt permission, it is the international thing or release of the last cockpit seat. The new change will limit our seats a great deal.
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