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spciii 12-01-2006 10:58 AM

ANC Commute
 
I've heard most posters say the commute to ANC would be heinous, unless you live near EWR, ORD, etc. But realistically, how hard would a commute from EWR to ANC be for a new hire?

Jetjok 12-01-2006 11:08 AM

FedEx operates an MD-11, I believe, 6 of the 7 days a week. By this I mean they leave EWR at around 3 AM and arrive in ANC at about 7 AM. There's one night that they don't operate, so I was taking the EWR MD-11 to ORD, then after about an hour layover, took the MD-11 up. In the year I was based there I never found it difficult to commute. Just Looooooong. The good news was that you could sleep in the back on the way up. I don't believe I ever had more than one or two other jumpseaters on board, so the corporate futon was usually available. I never jumped up to operate the same day, as I thought that was just dumb. So I'd ge to the B&B for the day, see friends for dinner, perhaps stop by the F Street to say Hi, and operate out to Asia the next day around 10 AM.

Getting back from ANC was the same in reverse, except that if you were late arriving from your trip, your ride might have already left. In a year that happened to me once. Forced me to do the B&B thing until the early AM and then took an MD-11 to Mecca-Red-Necka, and then the Airbus home. Otherwise, if all is working as advertised, you'd get back to ANC around noon or 1 PM, with the EWR jet scheduled to leave at around 2:30 PM. Time to change clothes, check the internet, call the wife to remind her to kick out the 4th Army Reserve unit and then board the flight back to EWR. All in all, it worked fine. It's just a very loooooooong commute. Good luck.

RedeyeAV8r 12-01-2006 11:13 AM


Originally Posted by spciii (Post 87258)
I've heard most posters say the commute to ANC would be heinous, unless you live near EWR, ORD, etc. But realistically, how hard would a commute from EWR to ANC be for a new hire?

Depends on your view of hard.

I can't speak for UPS personally, but I imagine UPS's skeds are similar to FDX's. If you want to lose up to 5-6 days off per month commuting up there and back as a new guy. The actual commute isn't so hard as the lost Free time doing it or the Toll on the Body.

FedeX has a non stop up / back (EWR-ANC-EWR) 6 days a week.
Trouble is you will have to commute up there an entire day before your trip.
If you have 4 or More trips (as a new guy's sked probably would) you can see how you lose 4 days right there, .........and after you fly all night 12 hours in from ASIA on the last leg of your trip, you will age very quickly when you opt to continue on the Jumpseat from ANC -EWR for another 7 hours.

Why do you think ANC goes so JUNIOR? because Cummuting up there SUX.
My advice is either Live there until you can hold a seat in the Lower 48 or don't Bid it. Just 1 man's opinion

spciii 12-01-2006 11:32 AM

Thanks guys. My wife prefers Marines, but the Army grunts keep her happy too. I'm just a UPS hopeful at this point and know they're sending many new hires to ANC, exp with Int'l Heavy experience (which I'm grateful to have). The wife doesn't want to leave the Northeast, so I'd like to do my best to keep her happy, just like the Marines are!:o

Jetjok 12-01-2006 11:48 AM

Well, if you get the job, I'm sure the captains at FedEx will welcome you aboard for the ride up to the North country. Don't take your wife up there for a visit in winter. Unless she's an outdoors type girl, she won't like it. Better wait until the summer, she'll love it then.

dudewannabe 12-01-2006 12:13 PM

Guys,

How many times a week does UPS do ONT-ANC? Can UPS pilots reserve a jumpseat?

767pilot 12-01-2006 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by dudewannabe (Post 87297)
Guys,

How many times a week does UPS do ONT-ANC? Can UPS pilots reserve a jumpseat?

Don't know the exact frequencies, but at least 5. You can reserve a seat 12 days in advance, but it is subject to bumping if the company needs to move someone. Hopefully the new contract will settle that down a bit.

As for the guy that asked about EWR to ANC, we have nonstops on that route, but not ANC-EWR. Those seats are almost always empty

Jetjok 12-01-2006 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by 767pilot (Post 87364)

As for the guy that asked about EWR to ANC, we have nonstops on that route, but not ANC-EWR. Those seats are almost always empty

A silly question. Does UPS cater the ANC.EWR flight for jumpseaters?

Trash Hauler 1 12-01-2006 03:52 PM

If the crew gets catered, the jumpseaters get catered. (unless they book very close to departure time) I'm not aware of any ANC-EWR flights, though we do fly EWR-ANC.

TH1

MD11Fr8Dog 12-01-2006 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by spciii (Post 87258)
I've heard most posters say the commute to ANC would be heinous, unless you live near EWR, ORD, etc. But realistically, how hard would a commute from EWR to ANC be for a new hire?

I was THE jumior guy in ANC for a year and lived in Manhattan and commuted out of EWR. Pretty easy! FedEx has a flight a night and there are almost always seats! I also never jumpseated the same day of a trip, but then again, I never had trips, I was on reserve. I always had the last week of the month with carryover to the next month - basically the last and first week of each month, ie. one commute each month.

Speed 12-01-2006 09:13 PM


Originally Posted by spciii (Post 87280)
The wife doesn't want to leave the Northeast

I grew up in a roadless part of Alaska and even Anchorage was too busy for me...so it's always been kind of a mystery to me why so many folks like living in the northeast!

I've known a number of folks from NY, NJ, Boston, etc who are living in Alaska and never want to go back. You should give it a look; you never know, she might like it!

Statistically, MSP is colder than ANC (yeah, that's not saying much). I know that I prefer the cold, often clear and (hopefully) snowy winters of central AK to the wintertime murk and slush that I've seen in the N.E.

RedeyeAV8r 12-03-2006 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by MD11Fr8Dog (Post 87416)
I was THE jumior guy in ANC for a year and lived in Manhattan and commuted out of EWR. Pretty easy! FedEx has a flight a night and there are almost always seats! I also never jumpseated the same day of a trip, but then again, I never had trips, I was on reserve. I always had the last week of the month with carryover to the next month - basically the last and first week of each month, ie. one commute each month.

Hey you ugly Mick, how are you doing? :)

That was back when ANC lines at Fedex were good. Many had double Dh's.
There were a lot of single departure lines..................

Unfortunately, that ain't the case anymore.
ANC has very few DH's now
ANC has very few Single Departure lines maybe 4 or 5 and they go very senior.
ANC has a lot of multi trip departure lines (3 or greater) and it tends to go Junior
Reserve tends to go much more Senior in ANC so new guys will be flying the multi departure lines.

As a real JR guy, I hate to say it but you are better off commtuing to MEM than ANC.

GET Senior thats the ticket

MD11Fr8Dog 12-03-2006 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by RedeyeAV8r (Post 87997)
As a real JR guy, I hate to say it but you are better off commtuing to MEM than ANC.

Agree, unless you get that unpublished carryover reserve line that I got for 11 months in a row! ;)


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