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Old 05-29-2017, 09:36 AM
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Originally Posted by woog315 View Post
My god I saw this thread at the top and I thought 67 was on the way
Me too. lol.
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Old 05-29-2017, 09:42 AM
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If they were to ever increase the age again there needs to be some type of phase in process. That last deal of adding five years with immediate effect harmed one generation of pilots while aiding another.

A personal example being that our family spent the five additional career years at the Regional FO wage, while another family spent the five additional years at top-end Mainline pay. That's why I could not previously support the push for age 65. Without a slow transition to any new rule (age, based on medical, etc.) keeping some movement alive in the industry, too many suffer all at once while others gain.

The true winners the last time were the airlines, and they wasted those years seeking concessions and kicking the can on making the industry desireable.
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Old 05-29-2017, 11:15 AM
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Would you rather have a healthy 75 year old with normal vision, excellent health and a lifetime of experience flying you around or the 45 year old that is overweight and barely able to pass the medical exam flying you around..? Whatever happened to common sense? We have testing and screening for a reason. Let it function. Away with arbitrary and unreasonably discriminatory rules.
I don't want the 75 year old, period.

The problem is not sudden incapacitation, which is what the Medical Certificate system is designed to protected against, it is cognitive decline.

We can not even reliably diagnose early Alzheimer's, let alone determine that someone is getting through a PC based on 40 years of practice but will be clueless on a real world crappy non-precision approach.

Some careers lend themselves to old age, lawyers for example. Others do not, such as professional racing, law enforcement and ATC. We fall in the later group. And until there is a way to evaluate cognitive decline at what are for the general population low levels, we have little choice but to draw a hard line.

And yes, Parts 91 and 125 have older pilots. They also have stories about pilots who should have retired but didn't.
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Old 05-29-2017, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 742Dash View Post
I don't want the 75 year old, period.
And yes, Parts 91 and 125 have older pilots. They also have stories about pilots who should have retired but didn't.
Interesting... I hear about under 60 pilots who should find a different career...
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Old 05-29-2017, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Whiskey4 View Post
If they were to ever increase the age again there needs to be some type of phase in process. That last deal of adding five years with immediate effect harmed one generation of pilots while aiding another.

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Absolutely!

One set of lottery winners at the expense of everyone else.
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Old 05-30-2017, 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 742Dash View Post
Some careers lend themselves to old age, lawyers for example. Others do not, such as professional racing, law enforcement and ATC. We fall in the later group. And until there is a way to evaluate cognitive decline at what are for the general population low levels, we have little choice but to draw a hard line.
Agreed, tough to argue past this. Relying solely on a control where colleagues deliver snapshot downs to those either not recognizing, or accepting, the time has come to throw in the towel is not likely to have consistent results.
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Old 05-30-2017, 05:40 AM
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Every single pilot who has died in flight has been under 60.
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Old 05-30-2017, 07:34 AM
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Every single pilot who has died in flight has been under 60.
Wow, do you really want to set the bar that low?
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Old 05-30-2017, 08:22 AM
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I for one, am very healthy, and can run a lot of pilots 10-15 years younger than me, into the ground.
Really poor choice of words on this topic.
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Old 05-30-2017, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Mover View Post
Really poor choice of words on this topic.
Hahahaha Point well taken. I guess in my older senile years I did not quite think through the implications of the term "in the ground" :-)
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