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DLax85 08-01-2013 09:57 AM

FDX - 757 Disputed Pairings - August
 
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757 Disputes:
#62 10,17,24 August
#145 12 August
#146 19 August
#147 26 August


Disputed Pairing 62, 145, 146, 147: We feel the long sit in SYR on the EWR-SYR-BTV sequence followed by the short layover is excessively fatiguing causing cumulative sleep loss over the footprint of the pairing. Your feedback on this pairing is requested.

In Safety....and Unity,

DLax




DLax85 08-01-2013 10:04 AM

Very nice job during the Carry In Conflict & Secondary Line processes! :)

All trips still "Open" in both seats.:)

"Open Time" starts tonight ---- lets all Trip Trade safety!

CloudSailor 08-01-2013 11:50 AM

Thanks for posting DLax85. I was assigned that EWR-SYR-BTV pairing, while on reserve on the 727. It was painful.

But, that was 2 years ago. What needs to happen for DP's to go away? How long can a DP continue to exist, month after month? Do we know how many DP's have been resolved over the years? Just curious about how the process works (or not)...

Hopefully the DP process is improved for our next CBA.

FDXLAG 08-01-2013 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by CloudSailor (Post 1455565)
Thanks for posting DLax85. I was assigned that EWR-SYR-BTV pairing, while on reserve on the 727. It was painful.

But, that was 2 years ago. What needs to happen for DP's to go away? How long can a DP continue to exist, month after month? Do we know how many DP's have been resolved over the years? Just curious about how the process works (or not)...

Hopefully the DP process is improved for our next CBA.

The exact process is spelled out you know where. Essentially after 3 months the VP of Flight Ops makes the yes or no final decision on the disputed pairing. Usually he decides the pairing is ok with him. Not picking up a DP can influence his decision, but it is his decision. There are no hard and fast rules.

In truth the only truly effective means for dumping a DP, or for that matter, dumping a pairing that sucks but is not a DP is for guys who fly it and get fatigued to call in fatigued.

Overnitefr8 08-01-2013 05:39 PM

Well, that didn't take long. Two taken immediately.

Overnitefr8 08-01-2013 05:41 PM

Taken by two of the usual suspects. :mad:

DLax85 08-01-2013 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by Overnitefr8 (Post 1455787)
Taken by two of the usual suspects. :mad:

In the left seat --- yes --- very disappointing leadership.:o:(

...and a new 757 FO --- though, certainly not new to the company.

(Note: Consolidation is not a valid excuse.)

Let's all continue to communicate & educate.

flextodaline 08-02-2013 04:10 AM

"We have met the enemy....and he is us"

....for those of you not old enough to remember Walt Kelley's cartoon character, Pogo.

FrankTheTank 08-02-2013 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by Overnitefr8 (Post 1455787)
Taken by two of the usual suspects. :mad:

That's just sad! And dissappointing!

FDX1 08-02-2013 07:34 AM

Shouldn't their Block Rep contact the pilots to make sure they are made aware of the "process" and politely ask them to change their behavior?


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